Phoenix Down in 4-Player Content is a Great Idea

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Originally Posted by Flowerscody2

My cope is the reason they are doing this is in "preparation" of removing the rez from smn/rdm so they can finally do damage =]

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There have been many removed abilities and spells throughout the history of this game, but this might be one of the few 'Justified' and is a proper tradeoff.

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Originally Posted by Flowerscody2

My cope is the reason they are doing this is in "preparation" of removing the rez from smn/rdm so they can finally do damage =]

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I doubt it since it only applies to some specific 4-man content

I feel like too many people aren't reading threads and are just assuming crap instead of checking the sources.

No, 8-player raids will not utilize Phoenix Downs. No, they're not taking away RDM raises. No, they're not doing this to increase damage output.

It was painfully clear from the Live Letter that this is for casual content only.

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Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora

I feel like too many people aren't reading threads and are just assuming crap instead of checking the sources.

No, 8-player raids will not utilize Phoenix Downs. No, they're not taking away RDM raises. No, they're not doing this to increase damage output.

It was painfully clear from the Live Letter that this is for casual content only.

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thats the answer to tanks soloing tho I think it isn't the right one

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

This cannot be said enough times.

1000x this would be amazing.

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I'm admittedly bafflingly confused as to why you would not just put it on a hotbar, but to each their own I guess.

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Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

thats the answer to tanks soloing tho I think it isn't the right one

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I totally disagree, I feel it's the exact opposite.

The real problem are tanks soloing the boss while the rest of the party is dead. And that's often because of a mistake the healer makes. A Phoenix Down to bring back the healer seems like the best solution available, and reduces the solo tank problem.

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Originally Posted by Atma

I'm admittedly bafflingly confused as to why you would not just put it on a hotbar, but to each their own I guess.

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It's just a whole lot more convenient to manage to be honest, and is a change that comes at absolutely 0 detriment to anyone or anything.

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Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora

I feel like too many people aren't reading threads and are just assuming crap instead of checking the sources.

No, 8-player raids will not utilize Phoenix Downs. No, they're not taking away RDM raises. No, they're not doing this to increase damage output.

It was painfully clear from the Live Letter that this is for casual content only.

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It has already been said by yoshi p himself there is a very high chance smn (and by extension rdm) will lose the rez in 8.0 and they almost lost it for 7.0. This would absolutely help the "issue" of those rezzes being useful in normal content but cause a "rez tax" for higher end content. Its only 4 person content *for now* who's to say it wont be extended into normal trials and raids. I think its actually very likely this is the reason they are doing it but only time will tell

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Originally Posted by Chesskyth

Hello! To clarify, since The Final Verse (Quantum) is considered part of the deep dungeon, there will be no item level restrictions. Players will enter battle using the aetherpool gear enhanced through Pilgrim's Traverse.

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So Quantum is considered part of deep dungeon so it seems more likely that Phoenix Down will be available in there.

While I do think this is an excellent addition to an item that is considered obsolete, since tanks now have more versatility in their contents, would this not further diminish the role of healers?