Yoshi P - Your next live letter, DT msq and the damage to the brand

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

Us not having anything to say about the kid with levin sickness was especially baffling because we have an immediate and obvious cure and just... don't bring it up for some reason?

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We even have a possible solution for the failing crops outside of solution 9. We specifically figured out that some areas have a tendancy to be aspected to one particular element need certain crops in order to survive (The mamool ja home) and we just.. never say anything about it. (Its possible that it was even the same element, and thus the same crops would work. But I forget)

Story wasnt that bad. Over reacting dont you think. If anything the real criticism should be the current job design. Encounter design is good and story is passable. However the monk problems, BLM problems, DRK and GNB dash problems show that there was an extreme oversight not only in media tour but overall issues in job balance and is showing that adding a new job every expansion is slowly hurting every existing job in the game.

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Originally Posted by Xellith

We even have a possible solution for the failing crops outside of solution 9. We specifically figured out that some areas have a tendancy to be aspected to one particular element need certain crops in order to survive (The mamool ja home) and we just.. never say anything about it. (Its possible that it was even the same element, and thus the same crops would work. But I forget)

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You know the worst about that. In every zone there is two series of 4 story side-quest (first quest is always a aetheral wind quest, 3 others are yellow quest). When you finish those 2 series of side quest there is a quest that conclude both lines with characters from both. In the Pelu Pelu zone, one of the quest is about a lalafell that tricked a Pelu Pelu into buying corrupted crystals, and the pay-off in the conclusion quest is that they will use the corrupted crystal to transorm the fire and thunder aether left by valigarmanda into earth aether so they can grow better crop in the mountains, mentionning what you with wind aether for Garuda. There is a side quest that solve that problem, making it a non problem. If you did that quest before, this whole segment just feels weird. You just want to scream "game, you litterally gave me the solution 12 hours ago"

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

Where did I imply that their opinion doesn‘t matter?
If you read my other comments I actually do say that it is completely fine to like the story.

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If you feel this was aimed specifically at you, that's my bad. My comment was aimed more towards those like Eyrilona who literally said in response to me: "so no, for the purpose of feedback and media coverage, the opinion of people that liked it does not matter as much as those who hated it."

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Originally Posted by Volgia

What damage? What are you talking about?

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My man living that sheltered life. Honestly i want them to bring back plunge. The new anime dash for drk is so damn lame. The npc in the lvl 90 void dungeon still has plunge but im left with the weeb anime dash from a failed edge lord....drk was done dirty during DT fix that lol

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Originally Posted by Derio

Story wasnt that bad. Over reacting dont you think. If anything the real criticism should be the current job design. Encounter design is good and story is passable. However the monk problems, BLM problems, DRK and GNB dash problems show that there was an extreme oversight not only in media tour but overall issues in job balance and is showing that adding a new job every expansion is slowly hurting every existing job in the game.

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Look im a hardcore advocator of ff14. Even I can say DT had a bad story, lets set aside the Wuk drama. Bad pacing, lack of fan fare, stakes were all over the pkace, horrible plot hole, krile and eren ville were done dirty, bland approach on characters, too many plots, too little resolves, grnocide is ok as long as we make final boss give up on her mission, lack of communication, lack of common sense (certain character dies, we could have prevented that, and another tragedy from happening), the telling others and forcing our views unto them, (the soul thing). Its weird but ideas on DT were all over the place....felt like no real focus until it came to certain parts of the story.

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Originally Posted by Zakuyia

Look im a hardcore advocator of ff14. Even I can say DT had a bad story, lets set aside the Wuk drama. Bad pacing, lack of fan fare, stakes were all over the pkace, horrible plot hole, krile and eren ville were done dirty, bland approach on characters, too many plots, too little resolves, grnocide is ok as long as we make final boss give up on her mission, lack of communication, lack of common sense (certain character dies, we could have prevented that, and another tragedy from happening), the telling others and forcing our views unto them, (the soul thing). Its weird but ideas on DT were all over the place....felt like no real focus until it came to certain parts of the story.

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I feel you could describe Endwalker just the same way with the exception of the stakes. Lack of common sense and communication, we get the final boss to give up on her mission by hugging her, we stand there while we watch someone die without doing anything... the story isn't without it's flaws but it wasn't anything too grating to do "Damage to the brand" lmao.

To me that's all a matter of opinoin, I found the storylines compelling. but if I have a real critcisims is that there are so many action scenes turned into cutscenes. You barely control your character but to drag other NPCs around, so it's a cutscene at your own pace. I have all these cool abilities and I use them on maybe 15 encounters. I find the MSQ flawed, but not because of it's characters, it's the narrative that bothers me, with such an up of quality from EW in terms of content it's kind of sad we spend so much time reading a book.

I was enjoying the story until we got to the final zone and then we had a repeat of the final zone of EW, a zone full of dead spirits and having to make brutal decisions. Hopefully 8.0 has a better end zone where we do not have to worry about existential death issues.

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

You know the worst about that. In every zone there is two series of 4 story side-quest (first quest is always a aetheral wind quest, 3 others are yellow quest). When you finish those 2 series of side quest there is a quest that conclude both lines with characters from both. In the Pelu Pelu zone, one of the quest is about a lalafell that tricked a Pelu Pelu into buying corrupted crystals, and the pay-off in the conclusion quest is that they will use the corrupted crystal to transorm the fire and thunder aether left by valigarmanda into earth aether so they can grow better crop in the mountains, mentionning what you with wind aether for Garuda. There is a side quest that solve that problem, making it a non problem. If you did that quest before, this whole segment just feels weird. You just want to scream "game, you litterally gave me the solution 12 hours ago"

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The crops in Heritage Found are dying for another reason. You will actually solve it in the sidequests.

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

You know the worst about that. In every zone there is two series of 4 story side-quest (first quest is always a aetheral wind quest, 3 others are yellow quest). When you finish those 2 series of side quest there is a quest that conclude both lines with characters from both. In the Pelu Pelu zone, one of the quest is about a lalafell that tricked a Pelu Pelu into buying corrupted crystals, and the pay-off in the conclusion quest is that they will use the corrupted crystal to transorm the fire and thunder aether left by valigarmanda into earth aether so they can grow better crop in the mountains, mentionning what you with wind aether for Garuda. There is a side quest that solve that problem, making it a non problem. If you did that quest before, this whole segment just feels weird. You just want to scream "game, you litterally gave me the solution 12 hours ago"

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I feel like those aethercurrent questlines could have been or at some point actually were supposed to be MSQ beats alongside the right of succession. They add some desperately-needed meaningful connection between the inhabitants of each zone and made everything feel more interconnected. Not even in a deep or remarkable way, they were just competent. And a pleasure because of that.