CBU3 just slapped every gay, lesbian, trans, queer folk in the face right on Pride

I'm gay and I don't want forced LGBTQ+ relationships just to grab 'pink money'... But at the same time I question, every time there's an actual couple, why it's always default to be straight cisgendered?

That kind of answers the question about the importance of representation and the ability for one to see themselves on media. Said that, I presume people against this thread (let the OP be a troll or not), would be okay if there was an actual duo like Dion and Terence? Whose relationship is just a background feature of their characters.

How they decided that Dion and Terence would be two men as a gay couple? Flip of a coin? Because the reception was positive in many fronts with the way it was added.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I'm gay and I don't want forced LGBTQ+ relationships just to grab 'pink money'... But at the same time I question, every time there's an actual couple, why it's always default to be straight cisgendered?

That kind of answers the question about the importance of representation and the ability for one to see themselves on media. Said that, I presume people against this thread (let the OP be a troll or not), would be okay if there was an actual duo like Dion and Terence? Whose relationship is just a background feature of their characters.

How they decided that Dion and Terence would be two men as a gay couple? Flip of a coin? Because the reception was positive in many fronts with the way it was added.

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I think the default is straight cisgendered because most people are straight and cisgendered. It is the most typical arrangement.

Not saying representation and diversity isn't good storytelling, but it's probably why it starts as "default".

Well written couples are welcome of any sexual orientation to me. There are obnoxious straight couples in media as well as gay ones. I care more about how good they are as characters and how they fold into the narrative. I think in general what people don't like is when a gay couple is put into the narrative and then there are tons of articles seeking praise for having included it, since then it feels disingenuous and more to try to increase sales.

I'd rather them not add any romance to the game. Given how cringey the Endwalker crafter relic questline was, I'd rather CBU3 never write another romance again.

i dont think we should be forcing orientations out in the open or forcing relationships to happen especially putting it on writers who are just not experienced to write about such a subject it would only come off as fake and disingenuous to those who are actually lgbtq+
would it be cool to see a representative character? well sure but only if they are written in a natural and not forced way it doesn't need to be outright stated what a character's orientation or preferences would be to those with whom it would matter they would be able to tell even if its very subtle.
if ever they are too introduce a mainline character thats to resemble lgbtq+ they need to make sure the character is designed and written with care and considerations not just view it as a means to earn public favor.

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Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf

...... We all thought... This expansion Dawntrial, will be the first expansion to feature a major LGBT NPC story character in the MSQ. But it's not. Does Square Enix even care about their LGBT players anymore?

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I'm sorry but aren't you in charge of the main character of FF XIV's story? So if you have your Character, who can be whatever you like it to be, not giving you a welcoming feeling isn't it your fault for feeling under represented?

The last thing this game needs is romance and sexuality shoehorned into the storyline. For all we know Thancred’s had his bi-awakening by now (good for him!) but it’s not gonna add a damn thing to the story. My gay af WoL and his gay af husband are the only representation I need.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I'm gay and I don't want forced LGBTQ+ relationships just to grab 'pink money'... But at the same time I question, every time there's an actual couple, why it's always default to be straight cisgendered?

That kind of answers the question about the importance of representation and the ability for one to see themselves on media. Said that, I presume people against this thread (let the OP be a troll or not), would be okay if there was an actual duo like Dion and Terence? Whose relationship is just a background feature of their characters.

How they decided that Dion and Terence would be two men as a gay couple? Flip of a coin? Because the reception was positive in many fronts with the way it was added.

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There is a gay couple in an ARR side quest, but I can’t remember which one. Maybe for an optional dungeon unlock? Or post moogle? I think it’s a Miqo’te and Hyur, who discuss people judging them for being interracial. Which honestly, even as lgbtq+ myself, I would rather see more interracial couples. I loved the Elezen and Hyur who had a baby at the Crystarium, F’lhaminn and her dead Elezen lover, and the Au Ra and Hyur couple from the EW ranged job quest. Oh, and the Lalafell and Hyur woman in the Fringes!

Romances has never really been a focal point in FFXIV. There are some implied relationships, sure (think Moenbryda & Urianger, Cid & Nero, Thancred & Minfilia, Ryne & Gaia), but that's about it. I don't think there's a need for any romantic relationship to be made important to the plot.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I'm gay and I don't want forced LGBTQ+ relationships just to grab 'pink money'... But at the same time I question, every time there's an actual couple, why it's always default to be straight cisgendered?

That kind of answers the question about the importance of representation and the ability for one to see themselves on media. Said that, I presume people against this thread (let the OP be a troll or not), would be okay if there was an actual duo like Dion and Terence? Whose relationship is just a background feature of their characters.

How they decided that Dion and Terence would be two men as a gay couple? Flip of a coin? Because the reception was positive in many fronts with the way it was added.

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Hetro is probably the default as it's debatably the norm for society (I say debatably cause personally I think it's more likely that bi is the norm for humans but still). Same sex couples are going to be rarer and since this game has I think 3 actual defined couples then it would make sense they would be hetro or appear as hetro. That being said I have no issue with them adding a few different relationships into the game just as long as they do it well. I think we can all agree we're tired of every gay character having to be flamboyant and effeminate in you face kind of characters, which is why I think Dion and Terence was so well received. They were gay but their sexuality didn't effect their personality as an individual, as in they weren't cliche. At the same time I think ff16 was a terrible game, but that's not due to Dion and Terence, in fact those are the only 2 characters the writers didn't butcher.

I mean...

Your character can marry someone of the same gender.

Titania is transgender

There are player-made Pride events, trans rights marches and such all across the realm.

If CBU3 really wanted to slap every LGBTQ+ person in the face, they wouldn't allow any of these things.