Graphical Update: Female Hrothgar feedback

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Originally Posted by Rekh

The extremes should never be used to remove options. No one's asking for extremes, most are asking for real life proportions.

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The flourishing modbeast community in this game has shown that people absolutely want the extreme and will exploit to the extreme any sliders provided. I can't blame the devs for not wanting to facilitate that crowd.

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Originally Posted by Rekh

It's true though. Since xiv has so little flavor in terms of races they force things like "barely any boobs on this race, lots on this one. No height on this race, a lot on this one." Slider's the only real difference in xiv when it comes to race, according to how square enix designs them. Look at the male viera fiasco; they could've been tall like their female counterparts but square enix was scared that it would take away male elezen's height status, even though male au ra already took that away from male elezen.

They have so little faith that their visual design alone, it's frankly sad.

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OK I ignored your comment cause, who in the right mind just vetos or denies another agreeing with the idea of expanded slider.

while also agreeing with ass slider overall.

It comes off odd.

Like, we ain't saying no, we supporting both ends and all other good things and stuff.

So I just thought, that's kinda weird, but I'll just ignore it since it doesn't mean anything in the long run.

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then you mention the differences in races.
and some of the expected and liked ones as well.

Like who do you think play these races?

Male Viera Too Short?
The Viera Community Love their "Short Kings".
(as much as some mock Au Ra's for our Dimorphism.)
Elezen don't have anything to fight for when it comes to height, as they are outclassed by Roes. People love Elezen for who they are, and those who play it do so cause they are, as they are.

Not cause another races male isn't taller than it.

Some limitations are dumb, we all agree.
(Like personally, if given larger slider length, and an Ass Slider, I wouldn't Deny, and would actively admit its stay 100% or 200% if possible within "looks great" range)

our Rothgals do need to be allowed some more Chest/Breast. Their Strong Backs can Bear

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

OK I ignored your comment cause, who in the right mind just vetos or denies another agreeing with the idea of expanded slider.

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It was a pause, not a veto, there's a difference in the two.

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then you mention the differences in races.
and some of the expected and liked ones as well.

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So you're for limitations and then at the same time you're not? Just because some like "insert race" limitations doesn't mean that giving an option that removes this limitation is bad.

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Male Viera Too Short?
The Viera Community Love their "Short Kings".
(as much as some mock Au Ra's for our Dimorphism.)
Elezen don't have anything to fight for when it comes to height, as they are outclassed by Roes. People love Elezen for who they are, and those who play it do so cause they are, as they are.

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You didn't understand what I wrote. It was clear that I stated this is the mentality that goes behind square enix designing xiv's races. As you can see female hrothgar has almost no chest because that's something they want to preserve for female roe as that's the closest thing female race they look like. They did the same thing with male hrothgar with the hunch and slim waist.

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(Like personally, if given larger slider length, and an Ass Slider, I wouldn't Deny, and would actively admit its stay 100% or 200% if possible within "looks great" range)

our Rothgals do need to be allowed some more Chest/Breast. Their Strong Backs can Bear

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Well, using your argument about "short kings" when referring to male viera I'll go ahead and say some of us love our flat chested queens when referring to female hrothgar.
You get your short kings I get my flat queens.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

If I had to guess I would say the reason is probably a combination of 1. body sliders causing issues with the armor system and 2. any sliders added will be taken to the extreme and they don't want gruesome PSO2 abominations running around, which I absolutely agree with.

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As someone who regularly plays PSO2(:NGS), I vouch this and also agree that I'm thankful that we won't have those with extreme/wacky proportions running around.

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Originally Posted by Boa-Noah

I'd really love a toggle or something for Face 3's fangs, they're an ugly dark brownish black color that makes no sense when every other face has pearly whites, one of the eye facial features is entirely pointless so why not replace it with a fang toggle? Otherwise I love Face 3, even the weirdly 'gemstone-ish' facial horns/spikes they have instead of tattoos.

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MY SAME COMPLAIN!!!
WHY FACE#3 has Dark Fangs and not pearly-white fangs like all the other face options?
Are they rotten fangs??

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Originally Posted by Yuantis

MY SAME COMPLAIN!!!
WHY FACE#3 has Dark Fangs and not pearly-white fangs like all the other face options?
Are they rotten fangs??

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Face 3 is a reference to Coeurls like for the male counterpart and they have black ones. That's also why they have these massive coeurl like whiskers. It's not an oversight and most certainly not rotten.

That said, it's always good to have options, and I wouldn't mind being able to pick the black fangs with other faces, so pro toggle!

The armor issue seems to be from piece to piece. The hands look fine and well.. but by comparison ALL the upper arms or 'sleeves' of a lot of pieces look HUGE by comparison. There's a lot of examples strewn across the internet atm. Their arms are normal, especially when compared to a FemRoe's, but then the armor or even cloth will just.. seemingly BALLOON out to make their arms look SO massive, which looks a little jarring depending on the top. I really hope they iron this bug/issue out eventually.

Example (links) One, Two, Three and Four

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Originally Posted by Madiera

The armor issue seems to be from piece to piece. The hands look fine and well.. but by comparison ALL the upper arms or 'sleeves' of a lot of pieces look HUGE by comparison. There's a lot of examples strewn across the internet atm. Their arms are normal, especially when compared to a FemRoe's, but then the armor or even cloth will just.. seemingly BALLOON out to make their arms look SO massive, which looks a little jarring depending on the top. I really hope they iron this bug/issue out eventually.

Example (links) One, Two, Three and Four

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I submitted a bug report in game because no way can that be intentional.

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Originally Posted by Madiera

The armor issue seems to be from piece to piece. The hands look fine and well.. but by comparison ALL the upper arms or 'sleeves' of a lot of pieces look HUGE by comparison. There's a lot of examples strewn across the internet atm. Their arms are normal, especially when compared to a FemRoe's, but then the armor or even cloth will just.. seemingly BALLOON out to make their arms look SO massive, which looks a little jarring depending on the top. I really hope they iron this bug/issue out eventually.

Example (links) One, Two, Three and Four

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Yeah, this has to be fixed asap it's pretty comically jarring to look at.

I mean just look at this.

https://i.imgur.com/yruGV2l.png