Letter From the Producer Live Part LXXIX - 24 September 2023 - Summary and Discussion

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's disappointing but not surprising that they chose to 'censor' Thaliak...

A rather strange decision given that shirtless athletic men are rather well liked in general and they had no qualms depicting Nophica as being as busty as her original artwork depicted as well as Yoshi-P actively joking about it.

This is what we wanted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6xSRYjb...jpg&name=large

This is what we're getting:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6xcS1va...jpg&name=large

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ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME??

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Thaliak's official description is just "a reserved scholar holding an ashen staff". His gigantic statue in Sharlayan itself has different clothing than the Ewer card. From the trailer I can't tell if the white on his sides is a shirt or if he is indeed mostly shirtless with a sort of black front thing, I think it can go either way.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBW1MpKVcAgYUrq.jpg

Still bare-chested there. I'd like to see them pull this excuse for Nophica.

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In any case it seems people are just nitpicking at things they weren't going to like anyway and coming up with more excuses to tell themselves the game is bad to justify the continued opinions they've been having and to make another sensationalized post on the forums.

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Very sensationalised and weirdly aggressive and patronising comment in response to feedback on what was in the trailer. I'm sure he knows better than you what he actually thinks.

I am very pleased with the mounts and minions added in this patch. They are weird and cute. But...

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Originally Posted by Theodric

This is what we wanted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6xSRYjb...jpg&name=large

This is what we're getting:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6xcS1va...jpg&name=large

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Aw, come on, man! If lady lovers can get their cheesecake, why not us gentleman lovers?!

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I literally linked the official artwork of Thaliak in my post that you quoted and compared it to how Nophica's suggestive artwork was carried over without any changes whatsoever. I'm also a gay guy, so I think you can cease your attempts to try and brush off my desire for eye candy as 'nitpicking'.

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The Ewer card is an in-universe depiction, not SE's official artwork. Other gods have been pretty close to that or other in-game depictions and others further away. Llymlaen doesn't look like her statues hardly at all.

You're also not the only person who's attracted to men who has an opinion. I'm attracted to men but I don't have the same opinion that you do and I don't think the game is censoring anything or has an agenda. There is literally another shirtless god in the trailer but you focus in on 1 dude to make some sort of point. How is that not nitpicking?

...because people were excited about Thaliak based on his depiction, much like they were about Nophica based on hers. What are you struggling to understand? Seems like nitpicking over feedback on the model, tbh.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

The Ewer card is an in-universe depiction, not SE's official artwork. Other gods have been pretty close to that or other in-game depictions and others further away. Llymlaen doesn't look like her statues hardly at all.

You're also not the only person who's attracted to men who has an opinion. I'm attracted to men but I don't have the same opinion that you do and I don't think the game is censoring anything or has an agenda. There is literally another shirtless god in the trailer but you focus in on 1 dude to make some sort of point. How is that not nitpicking?

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I think you're just moving the goalposts. For starters, I used the phrase 'censor' complete with quotation marks to reflect that I was questioning rather than claiming it to be the reason for the change. Secondly, when using the official forum for the intended primary purpose - leaving feedback related to the game - nobody is obligated to seek permission or approval from specific posters when raising their points.

They depicted Nophica's busty design in all its glory with minimal alterations but decided to take what is arguably the most conventionally attractive male counterpart and alter it significantly. If you're not bothered by that? Fair enough - nobody is demanding that you change your mind. They're simply expressing their disappointment at a rather obvious bit of fan-service being overlooked.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Except they never had issues with shirtless men, one of the most important npc of the game is a shirtless guy, but keep making things up I guess.

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Well the entire relic Hildebrand storyline is following some muscle-daddy in his underwear, and now he even has an assistant also in his underwear lol.

Maybe Thaliak decided to put on more clothes for battle/greeting people than he wears lounging around.

That said, the outfit is a bit hideous so disappointed there.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...4_15-10-01.jpg

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I swear, if that fairy mount gets put on the cash shop I'm going to flip a table!

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's disappointing but not surprising that they chose to 'censor' Thaliak...

A rather strange decision given that shirtless athletic men are rather well liked in general and they had no qualms depicting Nophica as being as busty as her original artwork depicted as well as Yoshi-P actively joking about it.

This is what we wanted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6xSRYjb...jpg&name=large

This is what we're getting:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6xcS1va...jpg&name=large

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Excuse me sir this is an upstanding Christian MMO

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

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I swear, if that fairy mount gets put on the cash shop I'm going to flip a table!

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I think it's probably going to be the mount for completing all of the routes in the new Variant dungeon, given that it appears to be a boss model from it.