"Just wait until *insert next patch*!"

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

So you guys hate the game and aren't enjoying anything in it so why are you still playing? Clearly you have been unhappy for quite some time if everything is just recycled content and that you've done before, and if you don't like it now I can only assume you didn't care for it then as well. Really these threads are useless, it's just complaining for the sake of it, no meaningful suggestions or discussion comes out of it. Anyone disagreeing with the sentiment is ridiculed while everyone on the other side says nothing of substance, they just go on about how bored they are. Then for good measure they like to throw in how much more they obviously care about the game because they're complaining "we want to see the game get good and succeed because we are such hardcore fans."

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this smells of "good vibes only guys no bad talking about the game please just quit already"

aka please dont let the game improve its amazing as it is and it cant be any better everyone criticizing should just quit anyway

yikes

This is pretty indicative of what future expansions are going to be like. Enjoy your 1 hour of content every 4.5 months! Please understand!

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

So you guys hate the game and aren't enjoying anything in it so why are you still playing? Clearly you have been unhappy for quite some time if everything is just recycled content and that you've done before, and if you don't like it now I can only assume you didn't care for it then as well.

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This is better actually. The last person claimed he quits the game but still engage the forum because it's fun. I can only venture a guess that they have more fun complaining on the forum than playing the game.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

aka please dont let the game improve its amazing as it is and it cant be any better everyone criticizing should just quit anyway

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Cite me someone who claim the game is perfect and need no improvement, do it, I dare you. This kind of line come "exclusive" from people like you who are trying to twist what others are saying.

There are people who point out issue and ask for improvement, and there are chronic complainers. They are not one of the same. Look through the history of the posts of people here and tell me you don't see the difference. For couple of handful posters here, it reached the point that if FF14 is a person instead of a game, they would mirror a domestic abuse relationship to a tee.

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Originally Posted by BreyVoreas93

You really think they listen? Take a look at this company over the last several years, it’s literally their game plan…not listening to fans.

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And yet, at the same time the negative echo chamber complains about how much of their game is fan-service...face it, some people here just want to complain. They're just bitter people who can't stand the thought that a lot of other people are still having a ton of fun playing the game.

Frankly, I'm more than content with the patches we've had in EW, and as a very casual player, I'm still in the process of finishing the last few Variant paths, with Criterion and IS still upcoming, alongside the old Sightseeing logs, leveling crafting + gathering profs, getting my last ARR relic weapon (NIN), and so on.

I mean, you have the OP here complaining that the newest Deep Dungeon is a...Deep Dungeon...and then pointing out and immediately dismissing that it has new mechanics. SE doesn't listen much to the furious few on the forums because they gather data from the game itself, and it reveals how out-of-touch those forum warriors are with the actual playerbase at large.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

this smells of "good vibes only guys no bad talking about the game please just quit already"

aka please dont let the game improve its amazing as it is and it cant be any better everyone criticizing should just quit anyway

yikes

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People can have complaints and I WANT people to voice them. However if it the ONLY thing they do...then that's when most people take issue. It's like having a friend who you never ask how they are doing cause you know it'll just be nothing but complaints so you start to avoid them because they are such a Debbie Downer and then you finally realize...you aren't friends.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

So you guys hate the game and aren't enjoying anything in it so why are you still playing? Clearly you have been unhappy for quite some time if everything is just recycled content and that you've done before, and if you don't like it now I can only assume you didn't care for it then as well. Really these threads are useless, it's just complaining for the sake of it, no meaningful suggestions or discussion comes out of it. Anyone disagreeing with the sentiment is ridiculed while everyone on the other side says nothing of substance, they just go on about how bored they are. Then for good measure they like to throw in how much more they obviously care about the game because they're complaining "we want to see the game get good and succeed because we are such hardcore fans."

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Clearly you have been unhappy for quite some time if everything is just recycled content and that you've done before
-It is

and if you don't like it now I can only assume you didn't care for it then as well
-False, I liked POTD but I don't like it when they copy and paste it over and over.
-I liked some dungeons at first but started hating them when they very obviously are the exact same dungeon for the 200th time if you take the graphics away and just consider the gameplay

no meaningful suggestions or discussion comes out of it
- Suggestions are made, I've sure made plenty.
- You're here complaining without suggesting anything either, so I guess you're lumping yourself in with all of us?

Then for good measure they like to throw in how much more they obviously care about the game because they're complaining "we want to see the game get good and succeed because we are such hardcore fans."
-We do, because its true, and you trying to preemptively disarm us by calling it out won't change that it's a fact.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

this smells of "good vibes only guys no bad talking about the game please just quit already"

aka please dont let the game improve its amazing as it is and it cant be any better everyone criticizing should just quit anyway

yikes

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Ok, so what do you want to improve then? Can you give any kind of solid example or suggestion or just say "boo no content"

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Originally Posted by Ath192

This right here. And quite frankly the reputational damage the game will suffer from being this dull and casual is that it's an MMO for babies. FFXIV, the MMO for babies and weebs. We are already thought as one of these elements, but the other is about to spread like wildfire from people who have become disillusioned and migrate to other games.

The boat is hitting an iceberg, and people are still thinking the ship can't sink but it can. Honestly right now, as it tries to set itself up for another 10 years, should be a moment of urgency, not of coasting.

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This is the only other post I can find from you in this thread, if there is a suggestion in here you are going to have to spell it out to me because I dont see it.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

Ok, so what do you want to improve then? Can you give any kind of solid example or suggestion or just say "boo no content"

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Can we start with Variant and Criteron having a point to do them? Or having a better reward gauge to do them?

I remember one time while working, I overheard my boss tell this one girl who was a compulsive complainer that he didn't want her in his office unless she had suggestions on how to improve whatever it was she was crying about. He also proceeded to tell her that if she was unhappy, she knows exactly where the door is.

You see, when you come here and mention the new content while simultaneously reaching for any reason you can find to rip on it, you're not making any suggestions. You're also not making yourself sound reasonable and open for conversation. All you are doing it whining. And in this echo chamber, you're doing it to farm likes and gather together a mob with the same mindset as you. In these cases, you can best believe I am going to echo exactly what my boss said to that girl, and tell you to just unsub. You contribute exactly zero of anything of benefit to the forum, and to the game. If you actively choose to not be part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

You bring in an air of negativity that implies it really doesn't matter what the dev team does. You will find something to complain about. If the hairstyle is short, it's another short hairstyle. If it's long, it clips or is another feminine hairdo. If the relic steps are extensive and uses FATEs, "OMG FATES! I don't even do those!" If it just uses tomestones, then it isn't grindy enough. If you are someone who simply cannot be pleased, then unsub. You are actively paying your own money to a game you do not support, and paying a dev team you do not like. You're also wasting your own time.

If you have suggestions on how to improve your experience in FFXIV then make them. However, do it without also adding, "Pfft, like they ever listen anyway." If this is how you feel. Unsub. You lot by the very definition of it, are a mob. Just sad in every way conceivable.