Is there too much soy in this game's community

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

If this were just about jokes, well. The OP was talking about insults and mockery, which are not jokes. The OP was describing both friendly and unfriendly banter, which are not jokes.

I welcome a response from writers who insist we "learn how to take jokes". Please provide a joke someone else complained about, so that we may interpret your level of pain.

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All of The Simpson's characters are based on stereotypes. Stereotypes people can find offensive. Yet, it's still labelled a comedy. South Park openly mocks everything under the sun, bound to say something someone finds offensive or insulting, yet it is still a comedy. Dave Chapelle, Amy Schumer, and Chris Rock are all comedians that rely on mocking certain groups and situations, yet they are still considered comedians. It's almost as if comedy is subjective. So maybe you should stop trying to police what is and isn't a joke when humour is subjective.

As Rowan Atkinson has said; "Every joke has a victim, whether fictional or non-fictional or notional, ideological or human and, therefore, there's always someone suffering if there's a joke. I suppose you have to accept that's the way it is".

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

If this were just about jokes, well. The OP was talking about insults and mockery, which are not jokes. The OP was describing both friendly and unfriendly banter, which are not jokes.

I welcome a response from writers who insist we "learn how to take jokes". Please provide a joke someone else complained about, so that we may interpret your level of pain.

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there are comedians out there that make jokes like this all of the time even 20 to 30 years ago. It was something like called being human. We all have defects etc and it's funny. That's what comedy has always been about then people go to thin skinned and forgot what it was like to laugh

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

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Two replies, neither of which contains a joke told by them in-game that resulted in a complaint by the listener/reader.

Is it because such jokes, when written in the forums, wouldn't sound so funny? It is more likely that the two respondents haven't actually told such jokes.

A lesson in "what is comedy" isn't what I was after. I've probably told jokes for more years than the both of you combined.

Thanks for playing.

People have a very bad habit of perceiving malice via text when none is intended. Absent vocal and body language cues that would otherwise make intent fairly obvious, text exists in a vacuum wherein people are much more able to misinterpret things as inherently aggressive or demeaning, often times regardless of surrounding context. This predilection makes common activities such as light-heartedly teasing an acquaintance much riskier than they would be in person or voice chat. It also makes any form of meaningful online debate very difficult to carry out, as one or more parties will frequently assume bad faith far too readily.

People also have a bad habit of putting too much stock in what other people think. You are responsible for your own feelings; if someone hurts them, that's a you thing. The same is true of one's own self-confidence. That isn't something others can give or take away unless you let them.

Tl;dr: words are words, and they only have as much power as you give them.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Two replies, neither of which contains a joke told by them in-game that resulted in a complaint by the listener/reader.

Is it because such jokes, when written in the forums, wouldn't sound so funny? It is more likely that the two respondents haven't actually told such jokes.

A lesson in "what is comedy" isn't what I was after. I've probably told jokes for more years than the both of you combined.

Thanks for playing.

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Probably more so because
1: examples of comedians who tell “offensive” jokes were given

2: examples of “offensive” comedy media were given

3: you’d be quick to hit report to one up them. Better to incite a ban than to discuss with people who disagree with you

You ask for a joke specifically. I believe with malicious intent while already being provided suitable examples to the discussion

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

A lesson in "what is comedy" isn't what I was after. I've probably told jokes for more years than the both of you combined.

Thanks for playing.

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Hm, you want to police speech and comedy and yet you make an ageist comment towards me and someone else. See how easy it is to slip into offensive statements? All it takes is saying something that you maybe find completely innocent that someone else finds offensive. So maybe we should stop trying to police what everyone else is saying and instead learn to be a strong person and move on.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Hm, you want to police speech and comedy and yet you make an ageist comment towards me and someone else. See how easy it is to slip into offensive statements? All it takes is saying something that you maybe find completely innocent that someone else finds offensive. So maybe we should stop trying to police what everyone else is saying and instead learn to be a strong person and move on.

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Offensive statement? It is a conjectural statement which you perceive as ageist. So yeah, those people who complain about jokes in-game have a point, right?

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

You ask for a joke specifically. I believe with malicious intent while already being provided suitable examples to the discussion

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And here we arrive at the crux of the matter. If someone has to fear telling a joke in the forums because they would be reported, why do they believe it's ok to do so in-game, where a much broader spectrum of players may encounter their attempts at humor. If the only "jokes" one can tell are decidedly offensive, why the whining about not being able to tell them in-game?

Here's a joke for you: Why did the chicken cross the road? Because the pedestrian bridge was closed.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

All of The Simpson's characters are based on stereotypes. Stereotypes people can find offensive. Yet, it's still labelled a comedy. South Park openly mocks everything under the sun, bound to say something someone finds offensive or insulting, yet it is still a comedy. Dave Chapelle, Amy Schumer, and Chris Rock are all comedians that rely on mocking certain groups and situations, yet they are still considered comedians. It's almost as if comedy is subjective. So maybe you should stop trying to police what is and isn't a joke when humour is subjective.

As Rowan Atkinson has said; "Every joke has a victim, whether fictional or non-fictional or notional, ideological or human and, therefore, there's always someone suffering if there's a joke. I suppose you have to accept that's the way it is".

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What makes a giant difference imo is wether as comedian you are trying to punch up or kick down.

Trolling aside I used to praise WoW's forums and community for being more grizzled and able to take a joke. Now...we're the grizzled veterans. This forum is truly the wild west.