Just give us a list of what addons we can use.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

To be fair, they brought up an example of using a calculator as a third party tool in a video that's easily searchable on YouTube...so following their line of thinking, Discord could be one as well if they really got deep into what could classify as one.

For those that cbf to look it up: https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU [Yoshi-P (FFXIV) on ACT and Third Party Tools (eng subs)]

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Just like Mayonaise is not a Instrument, Discord is not a 3rd Party Program, it really is not that hard to understand.

Is Spotify safe? What about Netflix? Is Chrome okay? Oh no, we need official answers quick!

By the way, a lot of these "streamers" are FOTM fans only. Flavour of the month. They stay for a little while, then move on to something else..they go where the money is. Twitch streamers are PAID for their content, so it isnt "free' either.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Actually, i do. I am aware of the streamer "presence", but up until recently FF 14 was sorta "in the background" as most of the streamers were busy streaming WOW...incl Asmongold who sneered at FF 14 as "weeb game". Wasnt until the penny finally dropped about WOWs large list of failures that he turned to FF 14.

Temporarily.

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Just want to confirm the fact that you don't.

Why do you think that subscriber numbers peaked towards the end of a post expansion patch (with very little additional content)? Why do you think that more people have been watching FF14? It's not that hard. No sure where your random animosity for streamers comes from (jealousy maybe?), but it doesn't change the facts.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

Cause I hear Gshade is okay. But that is still 3rd part.

And while we joke about the discord thing, that is a legit TOS breaker.

So we need a list of what is okay.

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Short answer NONE are allowed however they have basically said time and time again that they cant tell what people have on there computers for the most part so basically if you announce it they wont know what you use.

Yeah, None.

We don't need to have a WoWification of FFXIV.

I really hope that SE, takes a firm stance on all Addons being against the ToS, and ban those who continue to make use of them.

There's something wrong with this community.
The dude legit said "do not use any add-ons, period."
and you people are trying to really find out what he meant.
Like...what can't ya'll not get? Legit question lmfao.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

There's something wrong with this community.
The dude legit said "do not use any add-ons, period."
and you people are trying to really find out what he meant.
Like...what can't ya'll not get? Legit question lmfao.

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it was more "don't use addons" *wink* *wink*
e.g if we don't catch wind we don't care
whats been the understanding between SE and the community since I started back in 2016

Plus they did say that they're looking at addons and looking to incorporate some of their feature sets, what in turn does validate them

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Originally Posted by Mosha

it was more "don't use addons" *wink* *wink*
e.g if we don't catch wind we don't care
whats been the understanding between SE and the community since I started back in 2016

Plus they did say that they're looking at addons and looking to incorporate some of their feature sets, what in turn does validate them

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Yeah but he also said this:
''MODS, including third party tools are against the TOS and it's bad. I'm not asking. DON'T do it.
Even if you use it discretely where it can't be detected, we want you to understand, that we may one day decide to announce the banning of all mod/third party software users. Please understand the risks.

He has now said the same thing, again, and the example was made from those 2 banned people.
It's still very "don't ask, don't tell" but when you're sitting here in the heat of the news, streaming addons...
I mean, what did anyone expect? No one listened the last several times he said it, now he has to take actions LOL.

What I will say is they need to update the Accessibility and more QoL or update the UI.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

Yeah but he also said this:
''MODS, including third party tools are against the TOS and it's bad. I'm not asking. DON'T do it.
Even if you use it discretely where it can't be detected, we want you to understand, that we may one day decide to announce the banning of all mod/third party software users. Please understand the risks.

He has now said the same thing, again, and the example was made from those 2 banned people.
It's still very "don't ask, don't tell" but when you're sitting here in the heat of the news, streaming addons...
I mean, what did anyone expect? No one listened the last several times he said it, now he has to take actions LOL.

What I will say is they need to update the Accessibility and more QoL or update the UI.

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