"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

As someone who has tanked a lot for the better part of the last two years, I'm confused how people even manage to get ahead of the tank and pull mobs for them. Are ya'll frequently afking or something?

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Lemme know how to get ahead of Reaper's teleport, Dancer's triple dash and-for the extra tryhards-Dragoon's backflip going forward, with all of them using sprint right after.

For everybody else, if our sprint cds are mismatched, well.../shrug. It is what it is and like I said before, take care of yourself until I get there, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Provided they have the common courtesy of dragging them to the tank, then sure there's no excuse.

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Always helps if they're melee and they know they're going to get hit:

Pop Arm's Length so the mob's attacks are slowed.

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Originally Posted by Padudu

Use your sprint button smh

I never really had that much of an issue with people pulling ahead of me tbh, I just go in and retake aggro, gg ez go next if they wanna lone wolf they can, I don't care unless we die lol. And usually if they pull ahead and die they tend to stop anyways, so works for me.

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Well 1, I wasn't the tank. I was the bard. And 2, you seem to have missed the part where I said they ran ahead before the tank could even finish zoning. No amount of sprint is going to make someone zone faster.

This healer had zero party situational awareness and not even dying stupidly like that made them stop doing it.

Another bait post by Skiros, but one I agree with.

As a tank, it is my job to tank. If a DPS or healer is running ahead of me and pulling then I need to grab aggro off them. I may not like what they're doing because it's making my job more difficult, but I just need to grin and bear it so the run ends as quickly as possible. Once the dungeon is complete, I no longer have to deal with the person. There's 2 other people in the dungeon besides me and who's pulling; I should not be inconveniencing them because I don't like someone else's actions.

This is something that rarely occurs to me, however, since I pull wall-to-wall. Only time I slow down is if the healer is severely undergeared. If someone else is pulling first, it's because they're sprinting ahead of me.

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Originally Posted by Espon

Another bait post by Skiros, but one I agree with.

As a tank, it is my job to tank. If a DPS or healer is running ahead of me and pulling then I need to grab aggro off them. I may not like what they're doing because it's making my job more difficult, but I just need to grin and bear it so the run ends as quickly as possible. Once the dungeon is complete, I no longer have to deal with the person. There's 2 other people in the dungeon besides me and who's pulling; I should not be inconveniencing them because I don't like someone else's actions.

This is something that rarely occurs to me, however, since I pull wall-to-wall. Only time I slow down is if the healer is severely undergeared. If someone else is pulling first, it's because they're sprinting ahead of me.

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This post is a post based of personal experience and not one that is written with any thought of being in someone else's shoes.

It lacks any sort of nod toward people who may be new to tanking, whether it be tanking in general, tanking in ffxiv or simply running a dungeon for the first time.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Well 1, I wasn't the tank. I was the bard. And 2, you seem to have missed the part where I said they ran ahead before the tank could even finish zoning. No amount of sprint is going to make someone zone faster.

This healer had zero party situational awareness and not even dying stupidly like that made them stop doing it.

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tfw can't meme text, ya I know you weren't the tank LMAO I'm being facetious

anyways ya I get that healer was dumb, I was mostly replying to your lone wolf comment. I never had a person even come close to doing that before so idk that healer was on 5d big brain chess or something

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Originally Posted by Denji

This post is a post based of personal experience and not one that is written with any thought of being in someone else's shoes.

It lacks any sort of nod toward people who may be new to tanking, whether it be tanking in general, tanking in ffxiv or simply running a dungeon for the first time.

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Not sure what that has to do with anything. Just because you're new to tanking or a dungeon, doesn't mean you should be sitting there griefing the rest of the party because a jerk decided to pull extra. Now you're being more toxic than they are.

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Originally Posted by Espon

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Just because you're new to tanking or a dungeon, doesn't mean you should be sitting there griefing the rest of the party because a jerk decided to pull extra. Now you're being more toxic than they are.

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It's not griefing if you're still learning. If anything pulling when you're not a tank is not only griefing but against the rules according to the Prohibited Activities document, listed under ・Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior and ・Other obstruction of play (MPK).

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Originally Posted by Denji

It's not griefing if you're still learning. If anything pulling when you're not a tank is not only griefing but against the rules according to the Prohibited Activities document, listed under ・Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior and ・Other obstruction of play (MPK).

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Ironically, not taking aggro as a tank (regardless of who pulled) does indeed violate that exact paragraph of ToS ;)

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Lemme know how to get ahead of Reaper's teleport, Dancer's triple dash and-for the extra tryhards-Dragoon's backflip going forward, with all of them using sprint right after.

For everybody else, if our sprint cds are mismatched, well.../shrug. It is what it is and like I said before, take care of yourself until I get there, plain and simple.

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Every tank has multiple charges of a 20y gap-closer, which allows you to cover more ground than any of those abilities lol. In undertuned leveling dungeons the DPS could just tank the entire dungeon and it wouldn't matter.