AFK boot dodgers

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Doesn't discord show that if you are just at the movie screen, before logging in? I don't tell people what i am playing, so am not 100% sure, but I think it's just if the client is active. Doesn't mean they are online. So it's possible that they play, log out and sit at char selection until they want to play again. That they are online at any particular minute isn't a guaranteed 2 days.

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Does it if you have the launcher open too i think.

How do you know they've been online for 48 hours?

Are you just making assumptions because they're on whenever you are? Maybe they took time off work to play and are simply on more than you are. They could very well be logging off at normal times and you just don't know it.

I wouldn't make false reports on something you can't prove.

Hunches and guesses a aren't good ways to conduct yourself.

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Originally Posted by Imora

Saint title?

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The Ishgard Restoration had three 'seasons'; the people with the top 100 scores on every crafter and gatherer per server got a 'Beata of the Firmament' or 'Beatus of the Firmament' title, and the top 10 in each got a 'Saint of the Firmament' title. Some of the folks who went for the Saint title were... a little bit crazy. Like "stayed on gathering and crafting for multiple days" crazy.

(Beata/Beatus wasn't hard to do, but the Saint title got... hotly contested towards the close of each season.)

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Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl

I agree only because of the precedent it sets. I think most of us would agree that someone doing a 24 hour gaming session needs to get some sleep, but if you say you can't do it for 24 hours, what's next? Cutoff at 12 hours? 8 hours? 5 hours?

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There should be a hard cap for any expansion release only until que gets under control. There are people that are literally logged into the game for days hiding in house doing nothing while they sleep or do real world things so they don't get in que which ruins the game for the thousands of other paying players that have not been able to access the game since Endwalker launch. SE taking in all this money from the expansion knowing full well they can not deliver on the product. That is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Mythos12

There should be a hard cap for any expansion release only until que gets under control. There are people that are literally logged into the game for days hiding in house doing nothing while they sleep or do real world things so they don't get in que which ruins the game for the thousands of other paying players that have not been able to access the game since Endwalker launch. SE taking in all this money from the expansion knowing full well they can not deliver on the product. That is wrong.

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Great. So when a successful MMO like FFXIV does it, "playtime cap" becomes the new goto answer for any company that doesn't want to or can't upgrade its servers. It'll become the new lootbox. That's why I don't want it to happen. Better to suffer through a few months of this garbage than to negatively affect the entire MMO industry.

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Originally Posted by Mythos12

There should be hatsa hard cap for any expansion release only until que gets under control. There are people that are literally logged into the game for days hiding in house doing nothing while they sleep or do real world things so they don't get in que which ruins the game for the thousands of other paying players that have not been able to access the game since Endwalker launch. SE taking in all this money from the expansion knowing full well they can not deliver on the product. That is wrong.

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No.

Terms of service do not guarantee server availability or playtime capability.

Whats wrong is people trying to get SE to regulate FFXIV like China.

I wish the one doing that in Mist was doing it in their own place. Had a bard sitting by Topmast spamming their instrument keys obnoxiously all night long. It was annoying to come out of dungeons and hear violin key smashes.

Capping playtime is never the answer. If you can play you should be allowed to play as you want. I am not totally against them doing server restarts however.

Americans saying "you can't make a company refuse service to me like this is China!" when their own courts have consistently upheld the right that companies are allowed to refuse service to anyone they wish, no matter who they are. (see: the cake thing).

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Originally Posted by Myrany

The only way they can truly handle it is random server resets with minimal (1 hour) lead time. If I remember right they have done it before. Players threw a fit though so no idea if they would risk it again.

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Because the server wasn't really that congresses, they did it not because of the log in time, but just to stabilize the server. I was in the middle of my play when those boot happen, and I didn't mind because it would take 30min max to get in. But if you choose to boot people that entail a 4+ hours queue ... that will NOT fly very well.

Also it would be redundant. Right now people are just grabbing for straw at whatever issue they think might be a problem, regardless it's true or not, and I can tell you the AFK bot is definitely not. Why? Because the server kinda already reset pass midnight till early morning. This weekend I woke up at 7am and the queue were in 2 digit on Gilgamesh. This means the majority of players already log out daily, a 24h server reboot will not improve that in any meaningful way.