Some Sage Discussion

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

IDK, a SCH who has burned Aetherflow and Lucid then dies 30s later is still screwed for 30s.

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Gotta clutch that Dissipation

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Originally Posted by Archwizard

Weave... in...? Pneuma's a GCD, not an ability.

Not to mention it's your strongest GCD heal, I'm not sure what heal you were giving up to "weave" it.

Legit sounds like you're complaining you nearly let your tank die trying to cast Cure II.

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Originally Posted by CharlotteSilver

You're using Pnuema wrong.

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You're all missing the point. The point is that it's an action with 120s recast timer, and everyone was comparing it to assize, so I just assumed it was an oGCD. That's why the first time I attempted to use it in a dungeon, I was confused why I couldn't use it.

I wasn't complaining, just merely voicing my confusion, since I haven't played any jobs with a spell that has a long recast timer.

I'm going to borrow a quote from Mr Happy here.

"If Sages were given any buffs, what's the point of even using any of the other 3 healers?"

We are in an excellent spot, there's just a learning curve to adhere to when it comes to them.

That said I'd absolutely make Toxikon an OGCD, it's a movement button sure (we already have Phlegma for that to be fair) but the fact it costs addersting, is only damage neutral except when used as an opener and is a GCD makes it a very clumsy resource spender.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

I'm going to borrow a quote from Mr Happy here.

"If Sages were given any buffs, what's the point of even using any of the other 3 healers?"

We are in an excellent spot, there's just a learning curve to adhere to when it comes to them.

That said I'd absolutely make Toxikon an OGCD, it's a movement button sure (we already have Phlegma for that to be fair) but the fact it costs addersting, is only damage neutral except when used as an opener and is a GCD makes it a very clumsy resource spender.

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I still strongly would like to see its potency upgraded to 660 to make it DPS neutral rather than use it as an OGCD because then it feel like a nice way to diverge from Dosis once in a while. We could also make it a 75% damage drop off for secondary targets instead of 50% for AoE if they feel like it's necessary for balance, but all I really want is just a smidge more variation in my GCD DPS because that would also make me use E. Diagnosis which I currently almost never do beyond between pulls in dungeons. Even E. Prognosis has some clear uses for me even if rare.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I still strongly would like to see its potency upgraded to 660 to make it DPS neutral rather than use it as an OGCD because then it feel like a nice way to diverge from Dosis once in a while. We could also make it a 75% damage drop off for secondary targets instead of 50% for AoE if they feel like it's necessary for balance, but all I really want is just a smidge more variation in my GCD DPS because that would also make me use E. Diagnosis which I currently almost never do beyond between pulls in dungeons. Even E. Prognosis has some clear uses for me even if rare.

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I actually use E. Diagnosis for tank busters (combined with Taruchole) and E Prognosis > Pepsis for burst healing on raid wides if Ixicon is on cooldown

E.Diagnosis is also great for pre buffing before the pull

Zoe > E.Diagnosis > Kerrachole then into opener.

Kerrachole is probably our singular best button, 30 seconds cooldown, 15 seconds mitigation and regen with 7% MP restore is insanely good.

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Originally Posted by manamoppet

I know macros are a big no no, but the Toxikon proc remind me too much of HW DRK and the constant Dark Arts spamming, just with an extra button, so I made a macro which I call Toxikon Brevis (to stay with the theme. Edit: Mikrós would probably be better, but I don't know greek/latin outside Google Translate):

/micon Toxikon
/merror off
/ac Toxikon <t>
/ac Toxikon <tt>
/ac Eukrasia <wait.1>
/ac Diagnosis

If anyone wants to use it feel free ( I don't recommend using it for anything other than proccing Toxikon). Otherwise I like Sage. In some ways it feels like they have taken all off-global cooldowns from WHM and SCH and smashed them into one class. Holos feels like it could just be a trait upgrade of Ixochole with an extra charge. Currently I'm only lvl 79 so looking forward to try out the rest of the SGE kit.

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With it's 1s internal recast time, Eukrasia is perfect for a <wait.1> macro. Being a SCH main I have a very simple:

/macroicon [Adloquinium]
/ac [Eukrasia] <wait.1>
/ac [Diagnosis] Diagnosis <t>

/macroicon [Succor]
/ac [Eukrasia] <wait.1>
/ac [Prognosis]

/macroicon [Bio]
/ac [Eukrasia] <wait.1>
/ac [Dosis] <t>

I have yet to have any of them fail me.

I like the fact that Sage is really busy. Feels like HW Dark Knight on a healer. Such a fun job.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

I like the fact that Sage is really busy. Feels like HW Dark Knight on a healer. Such a fun job.

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It's the least busy healer after WHM, though.

Something minor that has bugged me as I get comfortable with sage is that the auto attack is melee. Shouldn't the flying lazers just pew once in a while? It just looks silly doing a monk impression during the rare times I'm stacking in melee range. Would it truly be game breaking and sacrilegious for the healer equiped with flying guns to do ranged auto attacks?

Having played sage for longer i'm getting more comfortable with Eukrasia.

However my current gripe is with Toxicon, i'm not sure when to use it as it doesn't seem to really beat out a dosis or dyskrasia, at least not at my level (81). Should i just consider it my "ruin 2" and use it to cast while moving? If so i don't really think it warrants a resource cost the way it does.