Which healing job are they gonna gut for Sage?

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It will be the same situation we have here. Shield Healers will be useful in prog and irrelevant in farm.

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I'm not so sure. If they're starting to make content based around having both shield and pure healers, they may start upping the damage or putting in more raidwide HP% damage in higher frequency that requires more mitigation to be used. Like having 2 fast raidwides hit back to back, and if you're not over a certain max HP percentage you instantly die. That would encourage mitigation and capping out people's HP quickly.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It will be the same situation we have here. Shield Healers will be useful in prog and irrelevant in farm.

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Alot of uptime cheese strats make use of shield healing, so they are still pretty useful.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I'm not so sure. If they're starting to make content based around having both shield and pure healers, they may start upping the damage or putting in more raidwide HP% damage in higher frequency that requires more mitigation to be used. Like having 2 fast raidwides hit back to back, and if you're not over a certain max HP percentage you instantly die. That would encourage mitigation and capping out people's HP quickly.

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So... E12s enrage, but constantly? Lol... I'd love to see it honestly.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

So... E12s enrage, but constantly? Lol... I'd love to see it honestly.

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It's what I wish they'd do. Break healers out of the DPS mentality by making us have to heal constantly like in ARR and HW. Man I miss those healing days.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

It's what I wish they'd do. Break healers out of the DPS mentality by making us have to heal constantly like in ARR and HW. Man I miss those healing days.

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Thing is, fights were always scripted back then in arr. The thing was we just didn't realize it until I would say til Gordias Savage when you really had to plan out your dps in order to clear A3S and A4S where you needed healer dps to clear those fights back then. Next, we didn't have the plethora of healing ogcds back then as well on short cds, unless you were SCH. A good sch back then with their fairy could have it heal 60-70 percent of the sch's total hps since it was uber strong back then and their dps would usually be double more than that of their partner unless in I think late patch 3.3 when they realized it was better to share the burden of healing for a higher combined total of healer dps.

Even then though I remember the whole buzz of Final Coil being cleared in the first week because of how Savage Second Coil prepped people for it and how healers and tanks were taking more risks in order to do dps.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

WHM wishlist: take lily heals off the gcd, and I am happy.

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I can't see that happening, unless they nerf or remove blood lily. A large point of misery was to give WHM a "damage refund" for the lost GCDs (Glares) used on lilies.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Alot of uptime cheese strats make use of shield healing, so they are still pretty useful.

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Having a good shield healer means vuln snacking strats, and it's so fun!

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Originally Posted by technole

I can't see that happening, unless they nerf or remove blood lily. A large point of misery was to give WHM a "damage refund" for the lost GCDs (Glares) used on lilies.

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I'd eat the nerf to smooth out the play, tbh. I don't know if I'm just too used to aether stacks but I really feel that gcd

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

Having a good shield healer means vuln snacking strats, and it's so fun!

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Well not anymore in savage, they watched too many players cheese E6S Ifirit soccer dad with shields that messing up mechanics this savage tier is all damage down instead of vuln. It goes up to 50% damage down in E12S which is pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by technole

Well not anymore in savage, they watched too many players cheese E6S Ifirit soccer dad with shields that messing up mechanics this savage tier is all damage down instead of vuln. It goes up to 50% damage down in E12S which is pretty bad.

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Wow. Can't have anything, then. :(

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Originally Posted by technole

Well not anymore in savage, they watched too many players cheese E6S Ifirit soccer dad with shields that messing up mechanics this savage tier is all damage down instead of vuln. It goes up to 50% damage down in E12S which is pretty bad.

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While it a bit random, alot of the damage downs can be mitigated with shields. See e10s where its easier to cheese than do the mechanic correctly.