Honestly, I would like this for all roulettes just on principle, not because of having any issue myself. But like you said, it won't solve this particular "issue" as people are not required to unlock all raids or they'll just do them on a low level job and with CT being the only required raid series for MSQ. They're not going to make every duty mandatory as they like the fact it's optional.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX
That said, like I said, I don't think it's a big enough issue in the first place as I get all the raids anyway.
Please fix the “naked queueing” for Aliance Raids
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11-01-2020, 04:50 AMlinayar
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11-01-2020, 05:03 AMlinayarNot only that, it'll suffer from the same issue 50/60/70 and 80 roulettes have. They're just not worth it, at least for me. There is only so much reward they'd want to give per day and they already have too many roulettes as it is to split the rewards over.Quote:
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In fact, I'd rather they merge all the dungeon roulettes into one and increase the rewards for that (add all the tomestone and GC seal rewards), especially since we're getting one dungeon per patch now. -
11-01-2020, 05:10 AMJojoyaNo one is not playing the game just because they don't enjoy certain optional content and choose not to do it. No one is getting free handouts when they still have to complete the raid the roulette assigns them to if they want the reward.Quote:
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What you propose is the worst form of gatekeeping because it takes away something the player had access to until they complete a new set of requirements in content they don't want to be doing. MMOs that pull that sort of stunt suddenly find themselves with a dwindling player base as players fear developers are setting a precedent they'll repeat and choose to walk away from the game before they lose access to even more content. They already lost some players when they announced Crystal Tower would be mandatory, though I doubt the number was enough to concern them. It could end up a concern if new players start quitting in post ARR again because they didn't like Crystal Tower and think that other raid content is going to be mandatory later in the MSQ.
Your gatekeeping will 100% backfire, which would be obvious if you decided to think things all the way through. It would decrease the number of players queuing for Alliance roulette dramatically, forcing a greater percentage of that smaller pool to get used to fill the now mandatory CT groups since the players who used to like doing CT don't queue anymore thanks to your gatekeeping.
Queue times are already terrible if you're trying to do the other Alliance raids for the first time. A lot of players get forced into Party Finder as it is. Your gatekeeping will make this even worse since SE has to prioritize the mandatory content over the optional content.
If you really want a chance to see other raids in a roulette, then 2 different roulettes would be needed - one for Crystal Tower and one for the rest. Bonuses for both would need to be the same (XP already scales based on the level of the job used so not a problem). Those who only want to do Crystal Tower can do it, get their bonus for the day and be done. Those who don't want to do Crystal Tower can do the other, get their bonus for the day and be done. Those who are willing to both can do both, get both their bonuses and be rewarded extra for their willingness to help wherever needed. -
11-01-2020, 05:19 AMDriavnaExpert roulette already does that each time a new dungeon is added. Not to mention that as a whole FFXIV gatekeep the player via MSQ all the time.Quote:
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11-01-2020, 05:24 AMGranyala
All they need to do is scale the rewards to the actual time needed.
If Monastery is worth as much or more xp/hour as crystal tower, the nudies will stop on their own. -
11-01-2020, 05:28 AMDriavnaNot enough I think. Chances are some players will do the same as with MSQ roulette and drop if they don't land in the one they want. All you need is one of those for more follow suit.Quote:
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11-01-2020, 05:37 AMLittleImplolQuote:
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oh thank god, nothing of value would be lost.Quote:
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11-01-2020, 05:55 AMUrsa_VonfiebrydThe ilevel requirements are already tied to each duty. The idea would be to tie them to the level a person ques with--thus making the exploit obsolete. I think this is pretty fair, but it likely won't be implemented either way since it's been like this for 3 expansions already. Just because this is the first you've heard of it doesn't mean it's 'a couple people's. It's a large enough portion of the community that this argument makes the rounds pretty regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX
The proverbial 'can of worms' is already open and has been for a long time. These are just theoretical solutions to close the lid. That's a lot of rancour for suggesting ways to fix something that has been broken for a long time and likely won't be fixed any time soon.
Though I'm not wholly opposed to your mandatory highest ilvl available idea it would be vastly unfair to those who aren't there yet. Which is the point I think. Being fair to everyone. But you knew that already. -
11-01-2020, 05:56 AMVeis_AlveareThank you so much, I almost wasted time replying to that but you've already said everything needed.Quote:
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11-01-2020, 06:11 AMSeddrinthThis is against forum rules. You are not supposed to broadcast glitches cuz now everyone who didn't know about this will now do it.Quote:
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