Femininity in men is not lgbt. Grace in men is not lgbt. Expecting someone who is lgbt to have this attributes is, however, homophobic in nature. Its like saying we got mcn cause ppl wanted representation of PoC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osmond
Gayness has nothing to do with these sort of things. The only thing you need to express being lgbt is having an attraction to the same sex - both sexes - and transitioning to the opposite sex respectively. No where in lgbt does it state that anyone has to adhere to any sort of stereotype, negative or otherwise.
The community has been asking for lgbt relationships or expression, but the last thing they need is for SE to perpetuate stereotypes because of some short sighted and ignorant view on what is lgbt. I have so many gay friends who are so tired of the assumptions they get when they tell ppl they are gay. "Oh did you watch Drag Race last night" "take me shopping" "you are my new gbff" "you play football? I thought you were gay?" believe me, there are a whole lot of gay ppl who are tired of this sort of thing. All they want is ppl to just stop with the stereotyping.
Dancer a bit feminine
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10-12-2019, 06:17 PMAnimaAnimus
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10-14-2019, 03:51 AMKolsykolWhat the hell are you talking about lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by guardin
I never said that men don't have rights..................................................................
Games are not more feminine nowadays at all, especially not in the West.
Femininity is quite downplayed in the Western industry and more traditionally masculine shenanigans are pushed even on female characters because a lot of people are just performatively woke and demonize femininity as something weak and oppressive, hence why women have to look and behave more traditionally masculine in Western games,
Not saying that's wrong for those who want to do that, but I do think that there's a demonization of femininty in the West which is kinda messed up.
And Japanese games are an escape from that to a lot of us, I appreciate that the Japanese aren't as scared of femininity.
In Japan femininty in media is far more normal and okay, even amongst men.
Both men and women being more feminine or masculine is more okay in Japanese fiction.
FFXIV is pretty good with this all-around and gives a lot of options but still do align mostly with the norms still.
And I don't see the problem with Dancer being more feminine when others are more masculine.
I'd rather FFXIV be like FFXIV than to just have them reduce feminine features and put everyone into the most gender-neutral clothes ever as to not '' offend '' anyone.
I am not opposed to options tho, if people want to play a male character wearing a skirt then I think that they should be able to as well.
But I think that it's too much to ask for when people ask them to adapt animations for a job.
If they're going either way then they have to choose and you have to suck it up and deal with it.
Edit: Feminism isn't the same as femininity either lol.
The usual Twitter/Tumblerinas causing a fuss about video games are usually quite opposed to femininity and see it as oppressive and part of the patriarchy and all that.
Usually they're very young and are still figuring themselves out.
As someone who exclusively play female characters in games and prefer feminine characters I can tell you that I feel extremely excluded by most of the Western games industry. -
10-14-2019, 03:56 AMKolsykolI didn't like the running animations either, nor the standing neutral ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurious_correlator
I feel like it's a bit of a missed opportunity.
I mean, I am a Dancer right?
Why ain't I dancing :P?
Their standing stance should have them move around more imo, I think that they should look as if they're always moving and dancing unless the weapons are sheated. -
10-14-2019, 07:44 AMIscahAgreed on disliking the animations, but I would have preferred a single graceful "poised for battle" stance. The jogging on the spot is annoying and it looks like a rather stiff and uncomfortable pose to hold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolsykol
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10-15-2019, 02:40 AMValkyrie_LennethYou mean monk? Cuz that already exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by guardin
We don't need multiple jobs with the same movesets.
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10-15-2019, 01:43 PMOsmondOk...nice way to be triggered, but whatever. Ah well, I better be careful with my words or i'll be put on timeout...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus
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10-16-2019, 12:52 AMFuriousOni
I don't dance IRL so wouldn't know, but are there any masculine dances that have mostly circular movements? Like, in order to smoothly throw these chakrams that the FFXIV Dancers use? I can't see a hip hop or break dancer spinning and throwing 2 hoops around with their rigid and jerky moves.
Of course, I don't dance and I only leveled my dancer to 80 and dropped it. -
10-16-2019, 04:40 PMAnimaAnimusRespond in a polite way, explaining a perspective that some people do not see and of course that means I am triggered. Cause when you can't have an adult conversation about stereotypes, just call the other person triggered to help feel good about yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osmond
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10-17-2019, 01:24 AMUfoCoffeeThey are giving their opinion, not trying to convert people? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, at least in a non-facist world. Nice mature addition to the discussion though :rollseyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Razard
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10-17-2019, 02:43 AMArrhin
And this is why we don offer opinions online. That said, DNC is fine...mebbe a lil short in pDPS but I like givin out buffs. DNC has a flow and personality that I feel other classes have lost. If anyone feels it's too feminine then mebbe it's just not for them? There's a lot of other classes to play and that's where the appeal comes from, not every class need appeal to all, but most should find a class that appeals to them. Kinda mirrors RL dontcha think?