Are dwarves the new race for 5.0?

I'd prefer the men to be classically handsome and fairly tall/lean. If the rumours about two playable races being added have any weight to them then hopefully at least one of them will conform to standard gender norms.

Let's not beat around the bush - many of the people asking for Viera to be added are doing so because they find them to be attractive. That's fine, though if outright fanservice is the route that ends up being embraced then hopefully the male model will also be very good looking and conventionally attractive. I'd have happily played a Miqo'te if I could have played one that was tall and beefy. Since that isn't possible, hopefully Viera or some other race will end up fulfilling a similar niche.

I’m thinking for the second race Ronso or another Ivalace race..

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Originally Posted by Rymm

Eh, larger females in mammal species are more common than most people realize. It's just that the big, flashy animals that most people think of when you say "mammal" (lions, elephants, bears, deer, etc.) don't follow this. It's actually relatively common among rodents and marsupials. But if we are talking about a fantasy species it makes just as much sense to draw on real-world rabbits' genetic trends as it does to draw on real-world humans'.

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It makes little sense. Rabbits do not have the same advanced social structures a humanoid race would have, which can strongly affect breeding patterns. It is fine from an artistic point of view to take inspiration (referring to the Drow, spiders were clearly the source, but the authors did not stop there and went further to explain why their society led to such an arrangement). If you want to justify it in terms of a race's lore, however, it will be by reference to the social norms that led to such dimorphism. I'd have liked for them to do that with the Au Ra, because whilst I think the implementation (versus the concept art) was not to my tastes at all for the females, it'd at least provide some insight into why the race splits along these lines. It's just good lore design to do so.

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And to my knowledge, this game doesn't explain in the story any of the cases of sexual dimorphism that we see, the Au Ra only being the most glaring example of it. I don't understand why (if it should turn out that bunnygirls are slightly taller than bunnyboys) it would be necessary in the case of the Viera. In fact I think the only time it mentions the reasons behind any evolutionary differences at all is to explain some of the trait differences between the clans of the different races, like why duskwight have darker skintones or dunesfolk have glossy eyes. And I'm not even sure if that appears in the game beyond the character creation screen.

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As I have stated multiple times now, I do not like the way they implemented the auri dimorphism; they're a bad precedent, not a good one. In general, I find their lore on the races lacking. Hence, I would like for them to instead put a bit more effort into it other than just appealing to some niche. They're releasing another lorebook soon, so I'm looking forward to them providing more insight into Auri (and other racial) lore.

I'd still not play an auri female with their current design but I like these kind of things being detailed, to better understand the race in question.

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I’m thinking for the second race Ronso or another Ivalace race..

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I'd be happy with Ronso, especially if they were designed to be very similar to their counterparts in FFX. If they're changed in any way then hopefully they'd have a facial option similar to Byakko's.

hope they put Kitsune race in

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It makes little sense. Rabbits do not have the same advanced social structures a humanoid race would have, which can strongly affect breeding patterns.

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Yes, social structures can strongly affect breeding patterns. But having a social structure in and of itself does not necessitate larger males. Hyenas live in large groups (upwards of 50 members) with extremely complex social structure (on par with some species of monkeys) and the females are not only a great deal larger than males but also way more dominant in the group's hierarchy. If you are suggesting that a social structure needs to be more advanced to influence dimorphism (i.e. using tools, manipulating fire, and/or building an actual society,) then I feel the need to point out that the sexual dimorphism displayed in humans and our progenitors predates these developments by an incredibly wide margin.

It could be as simple a matter as the primitive species from which the Viera evolved had, for any number of reasons, larger females than males and that particular gene stuck around to the modern day.

Would an explanation be nice? Yes! More lore is always a welcome addition.

Would it be needed for Viera when it was not necessary to delve into the primordial genetic histories of any of the other races (all of them aside from Lallafel, not just Au Ra, display this to some degree) to explain their sexual dimorphism? I don't see why it should be.

So now that the thread's been hijacked by Viera topics...



Any chance SE will release Fran's outfit if viera comes? I mean, I know it's a lot of exposed buttcheeks but if femroe max boob bouncing cleavage can exist, I don't see why we can't have that.

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So now that the thread's been hijacked by Viera topics...



Any chance SE will release Fran's outfit if viera comes? I mean, I know it's a lot of exposed buttcheeks but if femroe max boob bouncing cleavage can exist, I don't see why we can't have that.

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lol I don't think that will be added
Unless they redesign the outfit to cover up a little more

Could use some more dragon looking characters with full scales, claws and stuff.