So far the new 24 man..

neeeeevermind

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

Telling tanks to do their job is "nasty" now?

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I didn't say it was nasty, though? I said that was about the worst of the bickering I'd seen in alliance chat, and my implication was that it was pretty mild.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

I didn't say it was nasty, though? I said that was about the worst of the bickering I'd seen in alliance chat, and my implication was that it was pretty mild.

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My bad, misread havent as have. Obviously i need to lay off the 5AM skimming.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

Went in the moment it went live with a premade (yes I mean a full 24man premade) of competent raiders all on or having cleared D4 savage using discord to communicate as we learned and figured out the mechanics. Still took us around 80 minutes to clear and figure it all out.

Although our raid dps was ridiculous so each boss went down really fast as long as we survived the various one shot mechanics. I will say I didn’t expect such delicate mechanics so early. We had a fairly rough go of it with our organized premade but at least we were having fun. I feel bad for people that will have to pug it.

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What? We did that as 2 people premade in DF and we also cleared it with some wipes of course. This raid is not hard it just requires people to keep their eyes open.

Só you dont read my post, i was asking for 8 man Bosses while the Aliance os apartamentos from each odlther, nbot trash nova.

Unfortunately, the first and second bosses are noticeably harder than the third or fourth, which prompts people to leave quicker if things go south. To be fair, this tends to ease out once more people are willing to join in progress but I'll admit, I've noticed people bail after just a single wipe more so than back in Dun Scaith. Frankly, it's why I think the penalty shouldn't just be if one person leaves but up to at least three per alliance. What usually happens is one bails, then a bunch jump ship since they can immediately requeue.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Unfortunately, the first and second bosses are noticeably harder than the third or fourth, which prompts people to leave quicker if things go south. To be fair, this tends to ease out once more people are willing to join in progress but I'll admit, I've noticed people bail after just a single wipe more so than back in Dun Scaith. Frankly, it's why I think the penalty shouldn't just be if one person leaves but up to at least three per alliance. What usually happens is one bails, then a bunch jump ship since they can immediately requeue.

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I tend to only queue up for anything(roulettes included) with Join in Progress selected. Nothing like getting a leveling roulette that is an under level 30 dungeon, and only having to deal with the final boss. Or getting into something like Rabanaster at the second boss with 80% of people having jumped ship(the bosses, if you pay attention, really aren't that hard...fair amount of moving, but not really hard)

So far most of the groups I've been in have been fine, and I don't mind a handful of wipes because I know that people are still coming in/learning the fights.

That being said, we had an entire alliance (minus one poor NIN) drop after the 1st boss and before the 2nd last night. Not after a wipe, but after a successful clear. Pretty sure they were all trolls, as most of them were in 'base' classes (CNJ, WAR, etc) and glamoured naked... kind of annoying for trying to get the first boss down, tbh.