You're either a mediocre troll or a very very very very bad healer, or both. I'm assuming both. The ellipses and random caps locks don't do you any favors.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Enigma_
Dear RED MAGES....!
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10-19-2017, 06:07 AMPrismaticDaybreak
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10-19-2017, 06:36 AMElkanahFixed. ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by _Enigma_
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10-19-2017, 06:46 AMElkanahYou realize that 90% of PLD's who USE clemency in their DPS rotation and hate is because it allows the healers to DPS more? OR do you not play tank? Cause it sounds like you've never speed run as a PLD or have obtained Clemency. Clemency + Shield Oath + MP regain from constant hits Sheltron = more clemency.Quote:
Originally Posted by KDSilver
Healing generates hate for PLD's, similar to flash but with more MP consumption and just as much enmity generation. Before you speak up, please make sure you understand how PLD works.
Unlike RDM having or needing to veracure because healers don't have the right equipment to do their job properly, PLD's play properly. -
10-19-2017, 07:13 AMFluffernuffAnd you are? using Clemency severely messes with requiescat's timing and replaces a holy spirit cast during it. Clemency is just as limited as Vercure, but is infinitely less spammable due to it's cost. If you're using Clemency in PUGs in the vain attempt to bump healer DPS, you fall into the same trap as vercuring for the same reason. Using clemency in this way will only reliably yield that result if there's communication between you and the healer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkanah
It's not something that will make healers instantly do better. Pretty sure 9 out of 10 skilled healers aren't banking on a clemency to throw their rocks. I believe in healers to account for my stupid.
I havent looked up or researched any of the formulas for enmity generation, but considering healing does reduced enmity per target in combat... having you claim that clemency does the same aggro generation as Flash sounds completely absurd. and even if it WERE the case, flash is... half the cost of a single clemency? that sounds extremely inefficient. -
10-19-2017, 08:21 AMIlanIf you are a bad healer and keep on dpsing while your tank is going to die, yes it is way to much to ask since you are the healer and not the red mage in your party. I could not even understand your complains towards the red mages if you have a bad geared or just bad tank who is squishy because you should call out the tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Enigma_
Raising on the other hand is no big thing for a red mage and i personaly do that if necessary but not every damn time if someone dies especially not if the healer lets people die on purpose aka "maaaaaaah deeeps is more important".
If i'm healing and the red mage in my party heals around like crazy i'll get pissed because healing is my job and not his/hers. -
10-19-2017, 09:06 AMElkanahSo basically you don't play PLD at all. Got it. Speaks volumes of your in ability to understand what the usage is for. That's all I really needed to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffernuff
Clemency generates hate, similar to heals. Although PLD being a TANK class, it generates more hate, as opposed to a healer. PLD's use it as much in their rotation when tanking throughout a dungeon. We're not talking about raids, but dungeons. And yes, a good pld would use it during add phase, as much as flash. Your CD's are one thing, and those should always be used. Req is a great tool to have, and should be utilized on bosses. Adds in newer content deal more damage than they did in HW and ARR.
You should really play PLD if you haven't to better understand its ability, which you seem to lack knowledge of :l
RDM's don't require having to use veracure unless
A) Your healer is stupid
B) lack of ability to play job and can't keep up with heals or no gear
C) You purposely stand in stuff and aren't paying attention
PLD:
A) Helps healer dps (this is already a topic in itself)
B) Knows how Shield oath works with the rate at blocks/CD's + 10 points every block with the new shield oath gauge
C) Knows when and how to time both flash + clemency + sheltron -
10-19-2017, 09:24 AMJukebox12The formal of healing every pt of healing is .5. But why use clemency when you can use flash which has a multiplier and cost less mp. Also you should never be doing clemency unless the healers are busy during progession.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffernuff
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10-19-2017, 09:28 AMElkanahEnmity generation on pld is as much as flash. While yes, you can use flash much more per 1 clemency, you're also taking damage at the same time. But healing that damage + gaining enmity while allowing the healer to free up dpsing makes for a much easier time than having a healer stand there and do nothing for about 5 minutes watching netflix when clearing content can take less time with this tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jukebox12
Your rdm should be focusing on DPS. Your pld's taking the enmity generation during shield oath and keeping himself alive, to free up that time for healers to push. honestly, I get the most comms because my healers love me on pld more than war and drk. drks mitigation (even though I love my drk), is not as good as PLD's with clemency. Even with the buff to WAR, while it's in a much better position now, than it was in before, pld still reigns supreme on heals to self and mitigation in between dpsing and freeing up healer time dps with less chances of death.
Rdm potency is nice, but not as good as pld's.
RDM is 300.
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10-19-2017, 09:37 AMPrismaticDaybreak
Guys no.... you're feeding it.
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10-19-2017, 09:41 AMDualgunnerHOW...could...YOU...say...THATQuote:
Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak