Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

Please visit https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVhousingmarket/ and count the number of Shirogane land plots up for sale, which is now up to 7 on the front page at the time of writing.

That's seven players (and/or FCs) that didn't get a house because the house flippers decided their profit was more important than someone getting a property in the new neighborhood.

There is nothing right about that.

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I hate house flippers just as much as the people who buy from them..but really your argument that shirogane went bad seems petty like he said you didnt get a house you mad, you argue there is 7 houses for sale hmm lets try math 720 houses in Shirogane 66 servers (counted off the wikki)... 720 x 66 = 47,520 houses were released..out of that 7 are forsale. 7 out of 47,520

Dosent seem the problem is mass buying or mass selling its shortage of houses period..you keep bringing up people owning 16 houses. ive only heard of the mathus people im sure there might be 1 or two more who own whole wards. but multi house owners seem to own 2-3 houses so taken them is only gonna free up maybe 100 if you lucky on a server thats not a fix or help lol we need 50-100 more wards if they wanna keep housing in wards or instance them

Dont miss the bold type i think anyone who sells a house for profit or buys a house from a flipper should be banned permently..im just saying the problem with shir realse wasnt fippers it was the lack of the new houseing ward period

As long as I can share the house with my alts this would work perfectly, I could sit in one spot all day and craft and transfer things between my main and alts real easily instead of moving form city to city.

You want the devs to seize property from the wealthy by any means, to then resell it to others? I agree that we should only have one per account, I disagree with your redistribution of wealth premise.

I agree, but people who already own multiple homes should be compensated in some major way. Give them some unique items and a 100% refund or something. I doubt someone with 4 homes would be too remiss as long as they got a full refund for their investment and some additional compensation. What can you do with 4 houses that you couldn't do with 1 or 2?

With that said, personal housing should also be accessible account-wide... maybe even on all servers. That much reduces the incentive of over purchasing.

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

I hate house flippers just as much as the people who buy from them ... i think anyone who sells a house for profit or buys a house from a flipper should be banned permently

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And the GMs have been shown to be ineffective at resolving the issue, so all that's left is changing the rules and mechanics.

If you've got a better solution (that doesn't involved the ineffective GMs) I'm all ears.

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

Dosent seem the problem is mass buying or mass selling its shortage of houses period.

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It's both, anyone saying it's one or the other doesn't understand the true complexity of this issue.

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Originally Posted by joshdavis271

As long as I can share the house with my alts this would work perfectly, I could sit in one spot all day and craft and transfer things between my main and alts real easily instead of moving form city to city.

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I would hope that we'd get some sort of chest (like 25 slot) for housing storage so a player can shuffle items from the main to alts, effectively increasing their potential storage capacity.

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Originally Posted by Gravton

You want the devs to seize property from the wealthy by any means, to then resell it to others? I agree that we should only have one per account, I disagree with your redistribution of wealth premise.

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Except I don't see houses as anything other than a gil sink and feature of the game. Therefore, SE should be able to do whatever is necessary to ensure that the maximum number of people enjoy the feature.

There is no wealth redistribution when it comes to redistributing houses.

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Originally Posted by Saphirauge_Solasfola

I agree, but people who already own multiple homes should be compensated in some major way. Give them some unique items and a 100% refund or something. I doubt someone with 4 homes would be too remiss as long as they got a full refund for their investment and some additional compensation. What can you do with 4 houses that you couldn't do with 1 or 2?

With that said, personal housing should also be accessible account-wide... maybe even on all servers. That much reduces the incentive of over purchasing.

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I would be fine with that, assuming the player wasn't able to make another arrangement prior to the deadline.

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

...And the GMs have been shown to be ineffective at resolving the issue, so all that's left is changing the rules and mechanics. If you've got a better solution (that doesn't involved the ineffective GMs) I'm all ears.

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As already mentioned many times in many threads: Put in a random timer between relinquishing a plot and when it´s available on the market again.

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Provide sufficient wards that everone who wants to buy a house can buy one.

As someone who owns multiple houses on one server, I can't say I agree with this OP.

I was pretty lucky to get a small personal house for myself when 4.1 dropped. Here we are, a week later, and in my ENTIRE WARD, I am the only house who has more than 40 items. The ONLY one. Only three other houses had more than ten items total, combining the yard and the house interior. Two of the mansions are entirely empty, the third one has three vendors and a summoning bell.

My house on my main and my house on my alt are both item capped. I worked hard to gather and craft everything in both of those houses. How is it fair to me that I should have to lose one of my houses so that someone else can buy it and then never use it? I use both of my homes every day. I put in the time and work to craft and decorate them. I don't see how people like me are the problem, it seems to me like the people who buy a house and then NEVER use it are the issue.

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Originally Posted by Niraves

As someone who owns multiple houses on one server, I can't say I agree with this OP.

I was pretty lucky to get a small personal house for myself when 4.1 dropped. Here we are, a week later, and in my ENTIRE WARD, I am the only house who has more than 40 items. The ONLY one.

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What players do with their own house is their own business as long as it's not against the terms of use. A player decorating or not decorating their house is a poor argument to allow them keep it or to take it away. The problem has to do with the amount of houses available to the player population, not the quality of decoration.

The game is designed so that you can do everything on one character and SE do nothing to encourage playing alts save for allowing them to be made. You can't even mail your alts. Alts being able to buy plots is definitely an oversight...unfortunately the housing system is riddled with them, so here we are. If you own more than one personal house and one fc house on a single server, you're part of the problem. Whether you decorated them lovingly or not.

They earned the right to buy them, if you didn't get one, it's because you were too slow or couldn't compete with their gil. Why should you get a house for putting in less work and time then people that got them? Nothing is stopping you from buying and flipping either. And no, I did not get a house at Shirogane and no I do not flip houses. I reiterate, if housing is so important to you, find a way to get competitive with people who obviously want them more than you do. Bottom line is, in order to get a house, you have to be rich, timely, smart, crafty, saavy etc. You're not just going to get handed one.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

They earned the right to buy them, if you didn't get one, it's because you were too slow or couldn't compete with their gil. Why should you get a house for putting in less work and time then people that got them?

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Less work? Do you not know loads of people didn't get houses because of server queues, lobby errors, the patch not downloading and the launcher having errors? God it's so patronising when people say "you obviously didn't work hard enough" when several issues outside of a player's power affect their chances to even log in.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Nothing is stopping you from buying and flipping either.

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Not even the fact that it's against the terms of use and if you're caught you could get banned or even lose your account?

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Bottom line is, in order to get a house, you have to be rich, timely, smart, crafty, saavy etc.

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Yes because having all those traits magically makes lobby, server and launcher errors disappear.