Housing Fans who have been upset: Cries Have Not Been Ignored Yet

Fair enough. I'm just glad they're addressing it, and sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

In what way would instanced housing make it easier for everyone who wants a house to get one?
If there are problems adding enough additional wards, then surely there would also be problems adding enough housing instances.

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An instanced housing system theoretically allows for unlimited houses. If well designed instanced housing would allow SE to dynamically add or remove system resources to handle the load as people go to their house. You might start off a server capable of handling 100 (easy random number) instances. When 101 comes a second server is automatically added, at 201 another, etc. As people leave housing player would be assigned to the first open slot. As the system fragment instances could be consolidated returning unneeded servers to an available pool. Pretty straight forward systems design and management.

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Originally Posted by Vaer

Hopefully they say something. Last time they responded to forum drama all they said was "You all need to calm down." :rolleyes:

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...Let's be honest, it's a game. It's usually never really TRULY worth rage or drama. I get what he was doing by saying that, it was more of a "Calm your shit first, then, when you're done with your tantrum, I will go and fix it." If the community acts like a swarm of raging children over something that can be easily fixed and are threatening to unsub because they don't have immediate satisfaction over something that initially isn't in Yoshi's control, I don't blame Yoshi for taking the parent route. His job is hecka stressful! He loves it, he loves us, we need to turn and give him the understanding and patience he deserves.

What about opening up Ishgard for housing and using row housing. You can fit way more homes in the same area if there were row houses or town homes, the exception is there wouldn't be a front yard and there would need to be multiple floors but there could be almost 10x more homes available in the same amount of space.

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Originally Posted by Jieddo

What about opening up Ishgard for housing and using row housing. You can fit way more homes in the same area if there were row houses or town homes, the exception is there wouldn't be a front yard and there would need to be multiple floors but there could be almost 10x more homes available in the same amount of space.

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people hate apartments, they are going to hate this just as much if not more.

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Originally Posted by MiraOcelot

...Let's be honest, it's a game. It's usually never really TRULY worth rage or drama. I get what he was doing by saying that, it was more of a "Calm your shit first, then, when you're done with your tantrum, I will go and fix it." If the community acts like a swarm of raging children over something that can be easily fixed and are threatening to unsub because they don't have immediate satisfaction over something that initially isn't in Yoshi's control, I don't blame Yoshi for taking the parent route. His job is hecka stressful! He loves it, he loves us, we need to turn and give him the understanding and patience he deserves.

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I agree the drama isn't TRULY worth it.

However, this is the fourth time they have added wards and every other time it was the exact same thing. At some point people are going to be mad. Don't blame them at all. Probably got amplified due to them mentioning record profits/we just got new servers and they barely added any more than they usually do. (Last couple times it was 4 wards in each of the 3 old areas plus apartments, still 12 wards in total.) This time it was just 12 wards plus apartments in shiro and 0 in the old 3.

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Originally Posted by MiraOcelot

...Let's be honest, it's a game. It's usually never really TRULY worth rage or drama. I get what he was doing by saying that, it was more of a "Calm your shit first, then, when you're done with your tantrum, I will go and fix it." If the community acts like a swarm of raging children over something that can be easily fixed and are threatening to unsub because they don't have immediate satisfaction over something that initially isn't in Yoshi's control, I don't blame Yoshi for taking the parent route. His job is hecka stressful! He loves it, he loves us, we need to turn and give him the understanding and patience he deserves.

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I wish people would stop treating Yoshi like some kindly uncle they know. He's a buisinessman, nothing else. He will do the things that he thinks will earn his company the most money possible, with the least amounts of fuss and expenses. He doesn't "love" the playerbase, he sees us as customers to be milked for money, and will try to see to it that enough of us are satisfied so that his company can continue to make a profit. Also, there's alot of people with equally stressful jobs all over the planet, should we also start giving them understanding and patience when they totaly messed up? Cause that's what SE did this time.

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Originally Posted by MiraOcelot

...Let's be honest, it's a game. It's usually never really TRULY worth rage or drama. I get what he was doing by saying that, it was more of a "Calm your shit first, then, when you're done with your tantrum, I will go and fix it." If the community acts like a swarm of raging children over something that can be easily fixed and are threatening to unsub because they don't have immediate satisfaction over something that initially isn't in Yoshi's control, I don't blame Yoshi for taking the parent route. His job is hecka stressful! He loves it, he loves us, we need to turn and give him the understanding and patience he deserves.

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Here the thing.
This has been going on for four years now. If you go to the housing forum, you'll see (before patch release) that people have been talking about housing in a civil manner for a long time now. Each time they've released a patch with housing, it been chaos. They wait for the shit storm to pass and think, "It'll be over in a few days." and leave us in silence and never acknowledge the problem and fix it before the next housing patch. Four years of this is enough. I'm tired of it, and so are a lot of other people. We all pay for our subs, we all deserve to play the content we most desire. Be it raiding to housing. Content like housing, should never be limited to it player base. If you have the gil, you should be able to have a house if you want one.

It just a game - yep, you're right. But please stop hiding behind that excuse. It a game that we all pay for. For some of us, housing is our end game and it content that we'd like to enjoy without stress. Some of us don't raid or raid hardcore (me).

No, honestly, I hope our voices keep pushing for a demand to fix, in a civil way of course. I hope it continues and doesn't die down. Yoshi a good man, but as I said, enough is enough with the horrible housing system. I'm not saying that people should act out and keep raging, but maybe if a handful of players unsub they'll start to consider a real fix to the problem.

There only so much patience one can have. New housing was a selling point for Stormblood and a lot of people feel they've been lied to. While yes, us veteran players knew how housing was going to go, a lot of new players didn't and the disappointment from both old and new players has hit it limit.

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Originally Posted by Cylla

Agreed. These people are abusing the system. They know they can get away with it. Half of me believes SE not enforcing their ToS against these players who are doing it, but they should be and like I said up above, the worst punishment for these people would be to have the houses removed from their accounts and not a single bit of gil back for buying them.

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To be fair, some of the ToS needs a bit more refined instead of tacking on more things, I mean... you can be reported for inhibiting another person's playstyle... but the housing portion just seems like an intent to work the system and it's kind of disgusting.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

people hate apartments, they are going to hate this just as much if not more.

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I'm not so sure. The typical row house I think of has a small, fenced front yard/garden with a larger backyard. Not a whole lot different than the current small house just laid out differently. This could also be scaled as to house size like you see in many older cities. I still prefer a fully instanced option but the row house idea has merit.