Black Mage Raise Ability

I didn't read the rest of the thread it's too long but FINALLY someone who has some imagination! This is similar to what I suggested a while ago that everyone pooped on, a 180 second recast Void Raise that is off-gcd and costs no MP. Make it 300 seconds recast even, if you'd like.

It's not just the only caster that doesn't have raise, it's the only disciple of magic period that doesn't have raise. That's just wrong.

And perhaps most importantly lore/backstory/aesthetics is less important than mechanics and balance. A class's lore could be awesome but be horribly designed *cough*summoner*cough*

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Originally Posted by Llugen

I didn't read the rest of the thread it's too long but FINALLY someone who has some imagination! This is similar to what I suggested a while ago that everyone pooped on, a 180 second recast Void Raise that is off-gcd and costs no MP. Make it 300 seconds recast even, if you'd like.

It's not just the only caster that doesn't have raise, it's the only disciple of magic period that doesn't have raise. That's just wrong.

And perhaps most importantly lore/backstory/aesthetics is less important than mechanics and balance. A class's lore could be awesome but be horribly designed *cough*summoner*cough*

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I'm pretty sure in the first final fantasy game where there was just Warrior, Thief, Monk, White Mage and Red Mage back in 1987.. (CORRECT ME if I'm wrong) There was no lore to them until later games so.. Black Mage was the nuke class, to begin with before they started throwing lore so why do you wanna ruin the originality that is what they are trying to copy with the very first black mage? Lore was just slapped on because its a mmorpg and you need lore. No one that has made a final fantasy game since the first that threw in the black mage class stray away from the original design, just like the other first classes. Black Mage is basically magic based on destruction, destruction magic.. Does it make sense to give it a raise?

Uhhhh no thanks, I like BLMs pure damage stance. Besides, if every caster can do the same thing then why not just delete all 3 and make a generic Mage class? Different strengths and weaknesses make the jobs feel unique.

I can hear Yoshida's laugh from here with this thread.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

I can hear Yoshida's laugh from here with this thread.

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Right? He can't even say please look forward to it because he knows it isn't right.

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Originally Posted by waifugenerator

Uhhhh no thanks, I like BLMs pure damage stance. Besides, if every caster can do the same thing then why not just delete all 3 and make a generic Mage class? Different strengths and weaknesses make the jobs feel unique.

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Because blah blah can do blahda and all I can do is bleh, but I like being a bleh so give me blahda too!

BLMs are the masters of destruction. The thought of them having a raise just... it's just wrong. No matter what you call it. Yes, they're a DoM job and the only one without raise capabilities, but why should they have one? ESPECIALLY when all the others have one?

I get that the, supposed, argument here is balance, but why does that HAVE to be basically nerf blah or give me blah? Why not something new, something different? Something that actually goes with the job?

From a lore/class flavor stance, Black Mage with a Raise spell meshes together about as well as a chocolate malt with mayonnaise instead of whipped cream.

Instead of that mess, I'd rather have BLM contribute a different kind of utility. It would be kind of neat if their ley lines enabled other players within X distance to get a skill/spell speed bonus.

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Originally Posted by Keldion

From a lore/class flavor stance, Black Mage with a Raise spell meshes together about as well as a chocolate malt with mayonnaise instead of whipped cream.

Instead of that mess, I'd rather have BLM contribute a different kind of utility. It would be kind of neat if their ley lines enabled other players within X distance to get a skill/spell speed bonus.

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Yeeees and you know it baffles me when posts like these appear because its like.. Have you ever played the old FF games with classes? None of the jobs in FFXIV are XIV's own. All from the older games and they already have set themes and XIV is just taking them and putting them/making them work in a MMORPG.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

I can hear Yoshida's laugh from here with this thread.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDAtJzebC3E

I hope his is as glorious as Ben's.

Why are you all asking for a Raise when you're all already so good at refusing to let things [this bad idea] die?