How many people have multiple houses?

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Here's the thing, let's say they made these changes, what's to stop people making several service accounts (I have a friend with 3 active service accounts for example), to get housing on each of them.

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That's fine if they want to pay for 3 accounts.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

And when I put forward the idea of instanced housing (as an extension of the current housing), it got shot down instantly. Like I said, some people like the current system.

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I seriously doubt it got "shot down" as you claim. Everyone knows this is the proper solution that SE refuse to use.

Housing is the worst abomination in this game, agreed.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

I seriously doubt it got "shot down" as you claim. Everyone knows this is the proper solution that SE refuse to use.

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Let me point you to the post where it was shot down. Here you go.

But yes, I agree, housing is not in a good place right now.

EDIT: Gonna amend my reply to this post so I don't hit the daily posting limit.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

One reply that got 0 likes? Hardly "shot down" in my opinion.

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It was more the level of detail put forward in her post, detailing why it wouldn't work. Perhaps we have different ideas of it being "shot down", but to me a full and comprehensive post detailing why it wouldn't work counts as being "shot down".

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Let me point you to the post where it was shot down. Here you go.

But yes, I agree, housing is not in a good place right now.

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One reply that got 0 likes? Hardly "shot down" in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

It was more the level of detail put forward in her post, detailing why it wouldn't work. Perhaps we have different ideas of it being "shot down", but to me a full and comprehensive post detailing why it wouldn't work counts as being "shot down".

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Just because one person makes their opinion clear in great detail doesn't make it the opinion of the masses. Most people would agree with your idea.

Also, half of the points that person is making are invalid. Housing has features that you cannot get in apartments.

I own a single house in Balmung. I have, however, purchased three apartments for my alts because I noticed they hadn't filled, and SE said that they're supposed to easily add more if needed (not like I've seen them add more, but I believe there are still some apartments left in Balmung, or were the other day when I checked).

Even if this is a small server with lots of housing open why do you need 28 houses? If many plots were still open then it would be alright if they said that they had like around four houses each thus 8 houses..still a lot but 28 is way too much..I do kinda wonder if they would be nice enough to give some plots away when the server gets more players?

Its just like PVP players that are using their alts to get another limited mount..it takes it away from someone else and maybe there was someone that wanted a house in exact that place and cant have it. Also allowing this to happen on one server, allows this on other servers too..

And then after all this they play the victim card...harassment is not right but if you do something like that you will have to deal with criticism..I really wish that this would be shown to the devs to show them, that yes sadly people like that are playing the game and that we need some kind of restrictions..

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t....38-and-Beyond

He stated this like... 3 years ago and yet nothing has been resolved about increasing servers for the housing.

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The development team has been making the most of limited server resources to develop a new system that will allow us to add as many new housing plots as possible, but as we need to perform extensive optimization and debugging operations, we will not be able to implement this until Patch 2.4.

Some of you may be thinking it would have been better to simply wait until the release of Patch 2.4 instead of adding just a couple of housing wards, but please understand that we would like to do our utmost to ensure that new land is opened up as soon as possible, even if that means adding only a small number.

In the future, we plan to be able to double the total land for all existing housing wards, including the two new wards, in Patch 2.4 with the system changes that we are currently working on.

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I am curious how he thought that double the total land was considered "subplot", but that didn't really resolve anything either.

He needs to understand that the amount of people today is 5x the size of how many have played back then and needs at least 100-500 wards to even satisfy some people, or everyone.

This would have been a lot easier if they were starting as Instance to begin with, yes?

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Most people do not like the system at all. I wonder what's more important, pleasing a handful of RPers who want a bunch of trophy houses or the hundreds of people who would finally have access to housing. /think

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There is no need to wonder what's more important. Both housing systems (wards and instanced) can exist simultaneously with the same functionalities. Just leave wards the way they are when implementing instanced plots and nobody gets upset. Free Companies and individual players are then free to either buy an instanced plot or figure out a way to get a neighborhood plot.

I like my house. I would like other people to be able to get a house, instanced or otherwise. I would not like losing housing wards for no other reason than someone not liking them.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Most people do not like the system at all. I wonder what's more important, pleasing a handful of RPers who want a bunch of trophy houses or the hundreds of people who would finally have access to housing. /think

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I'll have you know right now, that these 28 plot purchasers are Native Mateus players who DO NOT Roleplay. They bought it because they like doing it as a hobby. So please don't just jump the gun and accuse roleplayers that they are responsible of buying multiple houses. There are plenty of roleplayers who are on the 2nd category as you stated.

You'll be surprised that there are plenty of non-roleplayers who buy more plots than roleplayers since they have nothing better to do once they feel stalemate in their contents (like people who don't raid)

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

It was more the level of detail put forward in her post, detailing why it wouldn't work. Perhaps we have different ideas of it being "shot down", but to me a full and comprehensive post detailing why it wouldn't work counts as being "shot down".

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Look at who replied. This is the same person who thought Regen wasn't your best heal throughout Heavensward and attempted to lecture Savage raiders on healing efficiency without having even finished 3.0 MSQ, let alone all of Heavensward. Make a new thread on the subject of instanced housing and I wager you get a better response. Frankly, it's what should be done as we will never have enough houses to fulfill the demand even by half. Unfortunately, the cynical side of me thinks they know that and hope housing entices people off Balmung and Gilgamesh.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Selfish and greedy. I don't care how hard you worked to be able to buy them all, there are people out there who can't get a plot because you wanted a bunch of trophies. 1 house per server should be implemented.

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Those people likely wouldn't be able to get a plot anyway. There aren't enough plots for every person to have one. Shoulda got there faster.