Changelist for ast ^_^

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

Do you think it'd take massive overbuffing for people to be willing to pick up AST? I remember the hate for DRK being QUITE loud even a month in. AST at least had people waffling back and forth on it.

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Hard to answer. If you take a look at Yona87's post just above yours, you'll see someone who's still stuck in 2015, thinking that N.AST is crap and who was probably driven by what the community was saying rather than personal experience. So, AST being played or not will mostly depends on people's willingness to not follow this old trend.

The best thing would be for the World First clear on Alexander Savage: Creator to be done with a N.AST, so people will think that AST is playable, or even overpowered, and will start to play it.
People, and players in particular, are idiots. They'll play what they are told is good, even if they don't even play at a high enough level for it to make a difference. Since AST was labeled as complete trash, and that the lastest buffs weren't enough to make that image go away in people's mind (even if D.AST was actually quite capable in reality), I cannot say for certain that the buffs alone will be able to wash away that tarnished reputation of AST.

It's sad. To break that vicious circle ("I will not play AST because people say it's bad, because people don't play it enough to know it's good, because people say it's bad, because people don't play it enough to know it's good...") it'd only take people to actually play it in order to raise awareness and the general skill level of AST players. Because right now, one of the biggest issue is that since "nobody" plays AST, people didn't had the chance to get used to how it plays paired with a WHM (and SCH to some extand, but D.AST is already almost a thing), so I'm guessing that's part of why they are scared of that job to begin with.

tried a couple of run just now and i must say i still choose diurnal over nocturnal, the more "HP restored barrier" buff is nice but overall unless the fight favor it, i still prefer diurnal thanks to it regen.

as for the card, people just happy with whatever i gave them as long its useful, at the very least now the card give you this "card icon" buff above your target head to make sure the target know he was getting buff from me so thats pretty nice i guess lol

I'll be taking Nocturnal to shield myself in new dungeon runs so that I can save myself from getting one shot by fucked up mechanics. Gubal was surprisingly punishing. I can't wait to try the other dungeon.

This is an extreme improvement over Hullbreaker. <3

Now that nocturnal is buffed, is there a fight/boss/dungeon where nocturnal is more favorable than diurnal?

The only one i can think is boss/primal that aoe heavy, like every primal doing thiat 1 aoe before the BGM change phase or nidhog with its several aoe blast phase... Cant think the rest lf it lol

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Originally Posted by gumas

Now that nocturnal is buffed, is there a fight/boss/dungeon where nocturnal is more favorable than diurnal?

The only one i can think is boss/primal that aoe heavy, like every primal doing thiat 1 aoe before the BGM change phase or nidhog with its several aoe blast phase... Cant think the rest lf it lol

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Honestly having someone capable of shielding is very beneficial in raid content unless the content you're running is trivial or you overgear it. Our ST shield being instant and efficient makes it pretty great to snipe heal someone who just took unexpected damage, too.

I'd personally use Nocturnal when paired with a WHM in 100% of the new content as stuff like preys is extremely common in this patch's fights, and damage can get pretty high given that we're at relatively low gear levels again.

For solo healing and dungeons, you'll probably want to stick to Diurnal unless you can outright deny mechanics by shielding them like in Hullbreaker HM.

Yeah thanks to Nocturnal buff, iam pretty much switch to it if iam paired with whm, the regen from whm and shield from my noc really make a good combo. For standard duty finder? Diurnal all the way for now

I feel that our stat priority have changed a lot now

Seems it be Mind > piety >spell speed > crit /det

Our benefit 2 proc makes crit less needed and spell speed more needed as u want to cast as much as possible whilst holding the benefit 2 proc

Also the more benefit 1 u get out the more likely u will get the proc for a 100% garentee crit with this we be able to dance more in cleric stance when we have the proc

I think this devalues crit by a lot and values spell speed more especially in noct stance and since we dont get 2x shield on barrier on crits

So for me im focus on pie/speed/ and accuracy melds also will change my relic stats to accuracy and speed or pie/speed depending on the new caps

But i would need a thoery crafter for this so can someone check plz want to know of benefit 2 proc devalues crit by alot and of spell speed gives more procs

Even with the buff, I still prefer with SCH because AST always makes me busy to shield tank before pull.

Crit hasn't been devalued at all with these changes, in fact I think the value went up. Crit increases crit potency as well as chance. Also, CO's extension now gives 3 to 4 extra HoT ticks, which are 3-4 extra chances for a higher healing bonus.

I will never stack Det on a healer, apparently the scaling is too low to ever make a realistic difference. Crit can make a difference.

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Originally Posted by Rennies

Crit hasn't been devalued at all with these changes, in fact I think the value went up. Crit increases crit potency as well as chance. Also, CO's extension now gives 3 to 4 extra HoT ticks, which are 3-4 extra chances for a higher healing bonus.

I will never stack Det on a healer, apparently the scaling is too low to ever make a realistic difference. Crit can make a difference.

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Yea I agree with you, Crit in general is just better than det, but you will notice a boost if you have high det (gear with crit AND det).