Implementing a PK(PvP) Server

Imo the best thing they can add PvP wise in this game would be a Lord of the Rings online PvP system clone. This could work in 2 ways to be lore appropriate. One way would be to have PvP creep/bad guys added to the game with the ability to create a bad guy just for PvP usage. The other would be some kind of power struggle between the grand companies. In any case, adding a huge map with multiple siege-able forts and a deep gameplay will make for a much more interesting PvP experience than this Feast bullshit.

Oh no. Just... no. I think that they can make the current pvp way better, but pking... I don't really see how it would be healthy in a game like FFXIV. People pking lowbies, or gathering classes doesn't really seems fun.

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Originally Posted by Morzy

Why would you say never.

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Its because there is a large contingent of people on the server who like to be negative toward any idea that is proposed. Even if those ideas to not effect them in any way.

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Originally Posted by Asmodai

Its because there is a large contingent of people on the server who like to be negative toward any idea that is proposed. Even if those ideas to not effect them in any way.

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Actually it would affect them because a new server means the potential for people to leave their current servers even more.

People who say PK instead of PvP

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Originally Posted by Asmodai

Its because there is a large contingent of people on the server who like to be negative toward any idea that is proposed. Even if those ideas to not effect them in any way.

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Well it would affect me by taking development time away from ideas I actually enjoy and furthering content I already enjoy. I would rather the dev team spend time making more glamour gear or making sure the new treasure dungeons are fun than putting time into advancing an idea I don't like, like this open world PvP.

Many say no to new ideas because nobody wants to see time from aspects they like moved to developing ideas they don't like. Every change affects every player to some degree.

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Originally Posted by LadyVal

Well it would affect me by taking development time away from ideas I actually enjoy and furthering content I already enjoy. I would rather the dev team spend time making more glamour gear or making sure the new treasure dungeons are fun than putting time into advancing an idea I don't like, like this open world PvP.

Many say no to new ideas because nobody wants to see time from aspects they like moved to developing ideas they don't like. Every change affects every player to some degree.

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You mean the time they had to make Diadem, those new dungeons that are basically one-lane rollercoaster rides with pit stops (enemies), glamour that does absolutely nothing to add to the core content of the game, and pointless savage/ hardcore modes which only have players fighting trial monsters like an instant boss run (shouldn't even be considered a raid). Open world PvP has much more possibilities, whether SE goes half-***ed and just make pking possible, players would literally still make it more enjoyable just by being there.

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

You mean the time they had to make Diadem, those new dungeons that are basically one-lane rollercoaster rides with pit stops (enemies), glamour that does absolutely nothing to add the core content, and pointless savage/ hardcore modes which only have players fighting trial monsters like an instant boss run (shouldn't even be considered a raid). Open world PvP has much more possibilities, whether SE goes half-***ed and just make pking possible, players would literally still make it more enjoyable just by being there.

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Yes, all content is useless and what can save the game is letting people kill each other on maps. Right.
Anyway, I couldn't care less if it's a separated server. Although I do prefer the man-work on other things.

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

Open world PvP has much more possibilities, whether SE goes half-***ed and just make pking possible, players would literally still make it more enjoyable just by being there.

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I've been playing MMOs for decades now, with the list of MMOs being a mix of both PvE and PvP and mixes of the two, and have never once found it enjoyable getting killed just because I was there. Not even exaggerating. In Tibia's older years there was only open world PvP servers. I was literally killed twice in Tibia just for being sociable. In Graal, an MMO built to look like a SNES Zelda game, I was killed by players throwing shrubs at me. Once to keep me from reaching the end of a maze where a treasure item was. I really do not get the appeal of PvP, and I hope I never will if past experiences tell me anything.

Another issue that pvp general does to MMOs is that it tends to adversely affect the pve aspect of a game. An ability with an effect that is considerably powerful in a pvp environment would end up getting adjusted so that it isn't quite as powerful. However, it results in that ability in becoming lackluster, if not useless, in pve environments (especially raiding). This is my biggest gripe about games with pvp (especially world pvp).

Guild Wars 1 (and I'm hoping Guild Wars 2) eventually started getting it right with giving each ability two effects: one for pve and one for pvp. So they can tweak one aspect without adversely affecting the other.