Tanks are still taking STR accessories.

Yes. About 2460 HP for a crazy amount of critical hit rate, because 2460 HP is not going to make or break anyone with an item level over 200 and HP over 23000; it's okay to min-max towards critical strike and not push towards 25,000 HP. That will come eventually, and not be needed as a buffer.

I think there's diminishing return when stacking crit, my SMN used to have about 800 crits but rarely procs, about the same when my crits was about 550 - 600.

Dang can't edit on phone. Which is now I rather be stacking spell speed now on SMN which contributes to my actual dps rather than stacking a bunch of useless amount of crit.

The problem is this: You will never know the situation where that 2300 health may come in handy either because you miss a stun, you get hit from an AoE you couldn't avoid for x reason or for any other part.

The x amount of % that adding strength over vitality in sacrifice to your health pool really doesn't matter if you die. People may not think an extra 2k health is good, but to me, it's an extra cushion that could let me survive a big blast that normally I wouldn't survive due to tank buster + extra hit at the end.

I'm still not buying the whole STR > VIT argument right now in 3.2. Sure, one can squeeze out more DPS by adding strength gear, but the minute increase in DPS is negligible. It really is.

I'm still not convinced one should go Strength after meeting bare minimum HP thresholds to survive the hardest hits. I never have. There's too many possibilities that I splat because of x reason. I wanna remove said reason to exist, so I maximize my living.

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Originally Posted by KrenianKandos

I'm still not buying the whole STR > VIT argument right now in 3.2. Sure, one can squeeze out more DPS by adding strength gear, but the minute increase in DPS is negligible. It really is.
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You don't have to because VIT is better due to it seemingly having the same weight as STR now and the added bonus of granting HP. The reason you'd want to avoid VIT accessories due to them normally having Parry and Accuracy, mainly parry. As parry is lack luster and accuracy is useless after you hit the cap for that particular fight. -- This is from a DPS focus by the way.

With that said. Can probably get the 220 crafted accessories and throw on STR in the 100% portion and choose your secondaries if you want to max out your DPS potential. Haven't played around with Alexander Savage yet, but I'm not over geared for Seph EX normally am left standing with about 7-13k after each tank buster, assuming I'm at full health. Not 100% sure about just throwing on all Crit though.

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Originally Posted by Seku

You don't have to because VIT is better due to it seemingly having the same weight as STR now and the added bonus of granting HP. The reason you'd want to avoid VIT accessories due to them normally having Parry and Accuracy, mainly parry. As parry is lack luster and accuracy is useless after you hit the cap for that particular fight. -- This is from a DPS focus by the way.

With that said. Can probably get the 220 crafted accessories and throw on STR in the 100% portion and choose your secondaries if you want to max out your DPS potential. Haven't played around with Alexander Savage yet, but I'm not over geared for Seph EX normally am left standing with about 7-13k after each tank buster, assuming I'm at full health. Not 100% sure about just throwing on all Crit though.

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Yeah if you are planning on MIN/MAX'ing, you wanna reduce the amount of wasted stats like Parry and add more stats like Crit..To me, it might add a bit more damage to your life, but I'm not MIN/MAXing because I'm simply not doing Savage mode content.

I think my worry about these threads is that new people who tank come in and read this stuff about how people are still using strength accs and think "Oh, ok, i should get str accs cause they are better itemized" when truth be told, if you're not doing Savage, going full Fending through Lore tomes is just fine. Even if you went Lore with +Parry and added STR/Crit onto the ACCs, you'd still most likely be able to do all the fights just fine.

Just gotta be careful about what information is out there and what kind of threads we create when this is supposed to be the forums for tanks to come look at info. The title is a bit skewed in perception when in fact, you don't really see it 'that' often anymore in 3.2

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Originally Posted by AriaEnia

I think there's diminishing return when stacking crit, my SMN used to have about 800 crits but rarely procs, about the same when my crits was about 550 - 600.

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In Dc universe online, crit was divided into two categories: Crit chance (critical hits occur more often) and Crit magnitude ( critical hits did more damage.)

I believe that crit in our game was changed such that everyone has a base crit rate and any additional crit from gear/abilities/melds will only raise the magnitude, not the chance.

So your summoner still has 20% crit rate ( I don't know the number, just making something up) but if you were to stack crit, instead of your Ruins criting for 700 damage, the ceiling would raise and they would crit for 780 damage.

There is somebody that I came across on IG (If you don't know, there's a huge FFXIV community there!) and he is i219 with all crafted gear, got full fending set, and just melded crit and det onto it, and noticed his DPS was MUCH higher than it was when STR tanking was king. So there's something to think about. Best of both worlds!

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Originally Posted by SeleneFatalis

There is somebody that I came across on IG (If you don't know, there's a huge FFXIV community there!) and he is i219 with all crafted gear, got full fending set, and just melded crit and det onto it, and noticed his DPS was MUCH higher than it was when STR tanking was king. So there's something to think about. Best of both worlds!

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Would kinda makes sense because we couldn't Meld with STR before 3.2, and Det increases damage and healing at a flat rate. So the damage, at some point, would spike higher than what we were doing as STR tanks.

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There is somebody that I came across on IG

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What does IG mean?