Coffin Lid and wind up Echidna too rare?

As rare as Hunting Hawk. I've been doing 100+ Diadems and no drop.
Been doing 20+ Void Arks per week and never seen the 4th chest.

As a pet collector this is way too frustrating and time-consuming. I got the CT minion and WoD minion when these 24-man raids came out and I think i saw the pets 4-5 times a week. WoD pet took me longer, but at least I had some chances to get them wich gave me some incentive to keep trying.

Never seen either and I have run it since the patch release. Oh well. Maybe one day I will see it.

In all my Void runs, and i've been running it since it came out many times a week, i've only seen the 4th chest a single time which had the minion. Of course...i didn't win. D:

Never seen the coffin lid yet.

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Originally Posted by ChocoFeru

As rare as Hunting Hawk. I've been doing 100+ Diadems and no drop.
Been doing 20+ Void Arks per week and never seen the 4th chest.

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Hunting Hawk is absurd and, unless SE breathes some life back into Diadem soon, it's only going to get more expensive. It's 20mil on Leviathan.

There is a reason why FFXIV is losing players pretty fast... just look at statistics :)
No progress and i mean NO... didnt see most of the new pets even droping! its totally a myth, they NEVER drop!!!

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

Never seen either and I have run it since the patch release. Oh well. Maybe one day I will see it.

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Seeing, maybe in some years, but then what about rolling against all others? :)

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

So, we should make it so that if literally 1 group runs it in a week it should be 100% drop? The logic here, I don't even...

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Slime and other pets were 100% in one dungeon chest - look at statistics, because it was 100% it doesnt mean everyone have it.
Only if you sell pets you are aiming to make them rare, that have nothing to do with game fun and is only seen in online games where other gamers try to make profit from the poor...

Continue to look at statistics, the game back then when we had many more 100% drops - we had many more players too! -> Did they unsub because of frustration? Maybe!

It is definitely beyond frustrating. I've taken a break on running the void ark as I've gotten dangerously close to burnout. I only ran void ark this last week once just to get a weekly drop. I had been running 4-5 times a day from when I got home from work until I went to bed - near 200 runs (I stopped counting at run #136, but was still running continuously).

At the end, I literally hadn't seen a 4th chest in more than 100 runs, and I've still yet to even see a coffin lid. There have been three sold on Hyperion for 20-30 million and there's one currently up for 50 million gil. I don't mind things being rare, as it is fun to chase rare items that are hard to get. However with the Wind-up Echidna and Coffin Lid not only are you fighting the odds of the fourth chest EVEN appearing, you've still only got a 1 in 24 chance of actually winning it.

To put things in perspective if you don't believe the rarity is a little excessive, on xiv-minions.com, there are 316,436 characters tracked.... 783 have gotten the wind-up echidna only 0.2%.

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Originally Posted by Miroku

To put things in perspective if you don't believe the rarity is a little excessive, on xiv-minions.com, there are 316,436 characters tracked.... 783 have gotten the wind-up echidna only 0.2%.

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Brings me back to my RO days when cards only had a 0.01% drop rate. Ah those were the grind days xD

Only saw each of these drop twice. Never saw them again.

Second time seeing it since VA released tonight... was the minion, lost the roll by... one. Yeah... I...