Post here if you're a paladin who job changed, and why

As PLD who bought eso weapon and body
Now changed to WAR
PLD is fine up to extreme primal but for savage, it different story
PLD DPS is too low, healing is interruptible

After i changed to WAR with no eso gear think feel much more smooth.
DRK is not 60 yet so i cant compare

Disclaimer: I'd always maxed out both PLD & WAR. But all the while PLD has been my main until now. Currently PLD at 60 (Been doing up to Bis EX & Alexander normal) and WAR at 59.

Why I decided to main WAR now instead of PLD:

1. It's easier to stance dance on WAR. Seamless transition into deliverance + FC without losing tankiness by timing your vengeance. For PLD, super awkward to switch to Sw.oath. Overall, even with all the new offensive skills given to PLD, I find them very clunky unlike WAR which I felt was very well thought out.
2. I feel like I contribute more to the pt as a WAR. (Better debuff, better dmg, better AOE threat.)
3. AOE threat and damage on PLD is literally shit.

Was a PLD main through 2.X, cleared FCoB on it, and was full BiS geared with a Zeta. I played a bit of DRG on the side but spent most of my time on PLD.

I now split my time with WAR.

I originally picked up WAR because my old static was having some DPS issues in AS1. First time in we were already seeing a 200-300 raid DPS gain despite my WAR only having a Ravana weapon, no eso gear outside of the belt, and not enough SS to hit berserk breakpoints or enough ACC for frontal cap. At the time, I wasn't even doing poorly as PLD (solo-tank Faust 500+ dps, ~700 dps on oppressors). But, everything was so ridiculously easy on WAR that I couldn't keep playing PLD seriously. It just wasn't fair that 7 other people had to pay for my insistence on playing a weaker job. Now, I only play PLD when groups already have a WAR or when it really shouldn't matter (so stuff like Bismark / Ravana EX, Alex Normal though I'm increasingly doing those on WAR because it's just so much easier to carry groups on WAR).

I was a warrior main when I was a top progression raider in WoW during vanilla~BC. While I enjoyed swinging a huge two-hander around as an arms/fury warrior in PvP, when it came to tanking, it was one-hander + shield. So seeing the shield bearing tank of FFXIV in such poor shape saddens me.

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Originally Posted by Kaidam

1. It's easier to stance dance on WAR. Seamless transition into deliverance + FC without losing tankiness by timing your vengeance. For PLD, super awkward to switch to Sw.oath.

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Since 2.0 i have been waiting when oaths will be oGCD and not brake comboes, it would make whole job feel more fluid thus more fun. Maybe one day...

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Originally Posted by Tadus

lol "you gear reflects that" okay. 1) I am in A3s 2nd) maybe the only enmity problem there is on PLD is flash 3) I have gone is sword oath before and have never lost agro 4) when I mean fun, I mean less simple. Maybe adding a stack mechanic or something like that 5) I would not be talking if I didnt know my stuff lol. If you came just to write a few numbers on how PLD needs more agro or how I am wrong because I only do 4 man content and Normal SavagexD then who is wrong here?

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This is funny for multiple reasons.
0) "your gear reflects that" = I find it curious (to say the least) that you're progressing in savage and using 210 fending accessories on purpose?
1) "I am in A3s" = i can beat A1s A2s. Those two turns are dirt easy and have been farmable since week 1. So "I am in A3s" doesn't amount to anything
2) "maybe the only enmity problem there is on PLD is flash" = what exactly are you flashing in savage? you might be one of a select few people who even care about this skill in the meta
3) "I have gone in sword oath before and have never lost aggro" = define what you mean by "going in sword oath". if it means you started in shield and then swapped into sword, that's highly unimpressive that you use a 10x multiplier on RoH to maintain aggro
4) "Maybe adding a stack mechanic or something" = there are already classes that use stacks, not every class should be the same otherwise this would be a very boring game to play. in fact, there is a healer (sch), dps (monk), and tank (war) that use stacks and if you find that more fun, please play those instead
5) "I would not be talking if I didnt know my stuff" / "who is wrong here?" = you're only talking because you think you know your stuff. the community is here trying to think of a way to bring PLD on par for the meta. I've listed numbers that are literally indisputable. You've merely presented feelings about PLD needing to be more fun. So when you ask me "who is wrong here?", I'm heavily inclined to say it's you.

ALL THAT ASIDE.
I honestly hope that PLD gets their adjustments soon and if they become "more fun" too, I won't argue with that. I wish you the best of luck in A3s, and I hope your group clears soon so that you can see the fun and fiery bicycle that is A4s. Hopefully we can both get what we want out of PLD.

I don't know if I'd consider it a true job change as I still decided to prioritize gearing PLD in ESO over landing a raid group thanks to current meta. Thankfully PLD ESO gear is BiS compared to a lot of the savage stuff, apart from some simple as1 farming for right side stuff which you get to greed on against melee's need rolls. That being said, I'm almost war 60 with full intentions of switching over. Even by level 54 I could see the power war holds compared to PLD at 60- which is just, sad to say the least. That being said, PLD are still capable of pushing out some solid dps when played right but you're relying on your healers ability to keep you up through 100% sword oath usage. Simply put, warrior is just much better atm in all imaginable ways and imo the true utility PLD could bring to a raid is unreliable at best.

I'm a Paladin who job changed into Dark Knight because it was new and a Tank class. Nothing dramatic.

I played PLD through the entirety of 2.0 and switched to WAR in 3.0 when I saw them get a new stance. I always liked having a stance for different situations on PLD. It was what made it unique to me. When I found out that WAR could not only stance dance, but do it better than PLD I made the switch. The class is simply more fun to play and the rewards you get for playing it well are head and shoulders above what paladin gets.

I love the visual aesthetics of PLD, animations and sounds are on point, but the utility and fun factor that WAR brings to the table made the switch easy for me.

PLD going to WAR

Longtime supporter of PLD since 2.0. But I did start out as a WAR in 2.0, my first lvl50 job, since I loved the idea of a self hp regen tank. But based off ffxiv mechanics, and other problems WAR lost favor pretty fast in the community even before any WARs started to do Coil, Hardmode Primals. I basically just stopped playing my WAR and leveled my SMN, and soon after PLD became my main job. WAR did get massive buffs in 2.1, but by then I was comfortable with PLD as it still felt the most solid tank out of the two, while WAR lost it's hp regen abilities in favor of upfront mitigation moves, so I lost interest in picking warrior back up, since it was not the tank I wanted it to be when I first read about it. In the end I stayed as a PLD main from 2.0 to 3.07.

I came into HW and leveled up my PLD through the MSQ. The level experience from lvl50-60 as a PLD was fun. You get new skills you think were great like Clemacy, Divine Veil, Sheltron...without knowing how useless/unneeded they are later in endgame content. I knew PLD was going to have less dps versus the other two tanks, but also "supposely PLD would have superior defense" to justify that lost. I was cool with it till later on it became more apperant how important tank dps will be in game content, and how the odds are stack against PLD in Savage Alex. Yeah with the majority of the meaningful dmg you want to mitigate is magical dmg this does not at all justify PLDs lower dps throughout a fight. Half of PLDs def cds are useless when up against magical fight. Block becomes nothing more then a over glorified rng statistic for auto attacks, and no block is no where near as close as strong as in 2.x... Bulwark becomes a whatever skill most times, and Sheltron is just a mp regen. Not to mention all the straight out cumbersomeness PLD has really shows, when doing Alex Savage. Changing stances, Spells, Shield Bash all interrupt your combos contributing even more dps lost in "actual combat".

Why the heck is Shield Bash still on global cooldown at the cost of 150tp anyways? TP cost is too high, and really what is the point of stun locking anything anymore? Stun locking lost it's grace back in 2.1 when enemies gained stun immunity overtime. Why the heck is Shield Swipe even on my hotbar anymore, really why? Why even have Divine Veil it's nice but is it really necessary EVER, no. This skill needs to be basically replaced by another skill entirely imo. Clemacy/Stoneskin why is this even on a 3sec cast with a 2.5sec recast? And last one why give Sheltron 100% block chance on 1-hit? I personally think Sheltron will always be OP when there is physical tank buster move, but will always be a dud skill when there is no meaningful physical dmg to block...skill needs to be reworked, and balanced out.

I just see too many problems facing PLDs. I love the class, but it's basically garbage tier in my eyes if you are serious about raiding. Outside of Savage Alex PLDs are fine, but inside Savage Alex it's a totally different story. Anyone staying as a PLD is doing nothing more then hurting your own groups progression.

On the record. I willingly changed from PLD to WAR. No one in my static ever asked me to change classes.

Bump for the sake of SE acknowledging the issue at hand.