Thoughts on players of the community.

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Originally Posted by Fendred

@Iromi
They also said they had their developers playing current MMORPGs to gain insights into how to design the game. The only reason they'd make comments like that is if they were going to copy paste the living hell out of what they were playing, which was most likely WoW. I don't have a date for when they said those things. However, I do know it was some time after the servers for 1.0 were shut down, possibly half way through development of 2.0.

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I remember quite a few instances leading up to ARR where Yoshida name dropped WoW as a main point of reference, but I don't have specifics quotes offhand either. He still brings up WoW a lot in interviews to this day. He's a big fan of Blizzard in general though and mentioned in a pre-ARR Letter from the Producer that he actually visited Blizzard's campus at one point to talk to the WoW and D3 teams about game development, operations, etc.

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Originally Posted by Mindylou

generalize much
talk about totally off
this right here is what destroys games
/downvote

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This isn't reddit or YouTube comments m8.
Been on NA server long enough to get a good idea of what it's like.
Least I'm here now and not there.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Working their asses off? The event was very small, barely worth calling an event, let alone an anniversary event (which is typically notably larger with more effort put into it then a regular seasonal event). All it was, was the developers patting themselves on the back for a job well done. Thats literally all it was. The only notable thing about the event was the 2 minions it provided.

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Someone sure is salty and bitter betty!!

@Fendred: So this is the 1.0 fault for giving in to this? Most likely this game was funded by money from FFXI so why would someone treat FFXI gamers like this then who helped fund this game so Yoshi P and his dev team could have a job? (this isnt meant as a personal attack just curious if there is truth to this)
From what you and @Iromi are saying the people from the darkest hours of FFXIV continued to play and pay for a subscription and wasnt really rewarded by getting what they actually wanted instead 1.0 players and FFXI players where used to pay so Yoshi P and the dev team could have a FF WoW Version? Again im asking I was not active during the forum times I was just playing FFXI and 1.0-1.23.

I really and honestly thought that the way this game is now was based of a decision from the player base and not a call from the dev team themselves to make it like this. This kinda makes me sad a bit cause what happened to this beeing a game from the gamers for the gamers as Yoshi P has claimed multiple times? That means opinions like Moonleg and many others who constantly bash on people with a FFXI-2 theory or go back to FFXI a bit invalid. Its leaning towards the following imo.

1.0 players and FFXI players paid for a game they wanted and beleived in and in all honesty and i say this with the outmost respect its the money from the 1.0 players and FFXI players and people with double subscriptions that funded the way for one type of game and pretty much used for a game that is a copy paste of everything thats out :( Now im bummed out.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

To be fair, trying to emulate what was successful about World of Warcraft is not in and of itself a poor idea. I think WoW's biggest success was in its fluid combat and usability. That's an area Blizzard has always excelled in.

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That is very true. Even for the things Blizzard didnt do themselves, they allowed third-parties to do. As a result the combat was very fluid and the ui very comfortable. (with addons)

Unfortunately, UI and combat fluidity were things not copied from WoW. Those 2 are the weakest points of FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

Edit: In fact Rokien would post daily saying how the game is going to end up a GW2/WoW clone or have tons of similarities...and people laughed him off the forums.

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Well, we did call it after all. Mind you, back when I was around (1.0, to before the 1.2 patch) the forums were a lot more civil then they are now. Some flames yeah, some rants yeah. But it beats white knights trying to mindfuck bludgeon people into submission with bullshit ''arguments''.

Atleast in a heated discussion you know people care, rather then ''they are probably trolling''

Aeyis: The only problem is the people monitoring these forums are only adding crowns on conversations that either involves adding plush toys for sale or anything thats gonna come close to WoW gameplay wise :/ I really really thought the community wanted this. Thanks to Fendrid and Iromi i know the deal now.