Change Player Commendations

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Originally Posted by Selli

If you're not doing good DPS, you won't be high on the enmity table.

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That's not true at all. Quelling Strikes can be used by BLMs, BRDs, SMNs, and MCHs. Enmity tables also don't show a SMN's overall DPS because their pet has an individual enmity table. A NIN can use Smoke Screen on you and your enmity will be reduced. A NIN can use Shadewalker and their enmity will be reduced. A Dragoon can use Elusive Jump and their enmity will take a massive instant cut. In other words, MNK is the sole DPS job whose job performance you can most accurately tell by looking at their enmity, and that's only without a NIN in the party.

It's funny, because in MMOs I've played where parsers are completely legal and the majority of the playerbase uses them, you can tell who's a great DPS by seeing how much they're parsing without being high on the threat list due to them using their threat-reducing abilities correctly. In this game, doing exactly what the best DPS would do in another game will often just make you look like a scrub in the eyes of an uninformed player.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

To add even more may lead to people begging/fishing for commendations that's gonna be annoying as gil sellers.

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This is already happening. When someone begs for them, I intentionally don't give it to them.

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Originally Posted by Hayden

Can we please just make it MANDITORY to either give a goddamn commendation, or actively choose "Give none" before players just whisk themselves out of the instance?

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NO.

We don't need more mandatory "button click menu blah before able to proceed" bloat in this game. It has already enough of that.

People should stop obsessing over these "commendations" as they pretty much mean nothing.

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Originally Posted by Odett

That's not true at all. Quelling Strikes can be used by BLMs, BRDs, SMNs, and MCHs. Enmity tables also don't show a SMN's overall DPS because their pet has an individual enmity table. A NIN can use Smoke Screen on you and your enmity will be reduced. A NIN can use Shadewalker and their enmity will be reduced. A Dragoon can use Elusive Jump and their enmity will take a massive instant cut. In other words, MNK is the sole DPS job whose job performance you can most accurately tell by looking at their enmity, and that's only without a NIN in the party.

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I can't speak for the other classes, but as a DRG main I tend to climb back up the aggro table very quickly after using Elusive Jump (assuming it's a boss fight and not trash that will die right away). There will be that massive instant enmity dump but they should be right back up near the top after just a little while because of their burst damage.

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Originally Posted by LunaHoshino

I can't speak for the other classes, but as a DRG main I tend to climb back up the aggro table very quickly after using Elusive Jump (assuming it's a boss fight and not trash that will die right away). There will be that massive instant enmity dump but they should be right back up near the top after just a little while because of their burst damage.

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I'm not sure if the person I was addressing meant that they judge damage output by what number a person is on the enmity list, or by how much of the bar they've filled up. If it's by number, your abilty to rise up really depends on the other DPS. If you were keeping a close race with a MNK for example, after the enmity cut, it's unlikely that you'd jump back to being Number 2 on the list. Also, keep in mind that ability to climb back to the top is impacted by at what point of the fight you Elusive Jump.

If we're talking about how big your enmity bar is, then that's completely reliant on the tank. A bad DPS could be stealing hate from a completely incompetent tank, and at the same time a good DPS could only be at a halfway bar or less because all the tank knows how to do is spam their agro combo instead of being more useful to the group.
It just proves that an enmity bar is by no means the end-all-be-all representation of how much DPS you're doing.