Overreaction to Astrologian buff.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

Were astrologians complaining before buff immature, childish, close-minded and ignorant? Most of those posts had the exact same flavor.

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No, most of them were very reasonable, very well-thought out posts about how they might fix AST without overpowering it. Many were from people who had Savage experience with both AST and at least one other healing class.

And are you seriously whining about SCH...? I mean, really? I've dual mained SCH and AST with the same gear and SCH is definitely still better than AST. Even if AST healing potency was WAY better (which it ain't...), SCH still stomps it flat in mana recovery, emergency healing, AND DPS potency.

Sorry, man, but actually get to 60 on AST, try the class against SCH with similar gear and then you'll have the right to actually call things one way or another...

I don't really see it as an overreaction. They are more concerns.
SE already said it themselves. That even after the buff, they are going to continue to monitor Astro. For all you know, they can be nerfed or buffed again. Buffed being highly unlikely.

I know that they are trying to make it so Astro can be a viable healer, but they are doing it by simply giving them the best of everything from the other 2 healing classes.

WHM has always been known for it's group healing ability and high potency heals.
SCH is known for it's mitigation.

Now they give Astro the best mitigation ontop of giving them the healing potencies of a WHM WHILE also maintaining Astro lowered natural MP cost of healing spells.

The only unique healing class is Astro now. If Astro can main heal and buff group dps, why would you bring a WHM? They can only heal. They can't debuff enemies or buff allies.

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Originally Posted by TraeSnow

I don't really see it as an overreaction. They are more concerns.

The only unique healing class is Astro now. If Astro can main heal and buff group dps, why would you bring a WHM? They can only heal. They can't debuff enemies or buff allies.

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Healer, as name implies, first and foremost job is to heal. if a white mage can provide enough healing for a group, that will allow the other healer to do more to support the group, be it cast support spells or dps.

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Originally Posted by DawnSolaria

Healer, as name implies, first and foremost job is to heal. if a white mage can provide enough healing for a group, that will allow the other healer to do more to support the group, be it cast support spells or dps.

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Yes, that is true, but if an Astro can main heal, due to their high potencies now, while keeping everyone alive and so can a WHM. Astro would be the better choice because they have a card system to buff allies, as well as their new mitigation bubble.

If the main healer can heal and cast support skills vs a healer who can only heal.
The choice is rather obvious.

So what you propose is to nerf AST potency back to what is was? As we have already witnessed that would not work.

No one wants a healer that cannot heal.

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Originally Posted by DawnSolaria

So what you propose is to nerf AST potency back to what is was? As we have already witnessed that would not work.

No one wants a healer that cannot heal.

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You do realise their potency before was exactly THE EXACT SAME as the other healers due to sect bonuses, now its over the top , ast had problems elsewhere not in their potencies.

But you will never see it or any flaw at all , for all you care they can give astrologians a 6x lustrates and 3x benedictions you would still say they are weak or ask for more buffs, its normal i understand its always like this in games, you are happy when they buff your class but you have to be honest here for chirst sake, they did not need increased potencies , they needed meaningfull cooldowns and better cards.

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Originally Posted by DawnSolaria

So what you propose is to nerf AST potency back to what is was? As we have already witnessed that would not work.

No one wants a healer that cannot heal.

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The only issue Astro had was the fact their AoE heals were 15 ylms instead of 20 ylms, like the other two healers in the game.

If we follow your logic, why don't we give SCH WHM's healing potency as well.
I mean, they have always had issues with their low potency heals. Let's give them everything a WHM can do.

And why SCH should be allowed to DPS better Heal better and Support better than AST? (I'm refering to AST pre buffs)

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

But you will never see it or any flaw at all , for all you care they can give astrologians a 6x lustrates and 3x benedictions you would still say they are weak or ask for more buffs, its normal i understand its always like this in games, you are happy when they buff your class but you have to be honest here for chirst sake, they did not need increased potencies , they needed meaningfull cooldowns and better cards.

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Incorrect assumptions. I am perfectly fine with where AST is now. Now we actually feel like healer, not some sorry excuses with RNG cards trying to fit in.

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Originally Posted by TraeSnow

Now they give Astro the best mitigation ontop of giving them the healing potencies of a WHM WHILE also maintaining Astro lowered natural MP cost of healing spells.

The only unique healing class is Astro now. If Astro can main heal and buff group dps, why would you bring a WHM? They can only heal. They can't debuff enemies or buff allies.

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Probably because WHM have some of the best sustained healing+mana recovery tools while AST has hot garbage for mana recovery (and can go OoM quickly) and their buffs are RNG-based, meaning they could do nothing beneficial for and entire raid encounter.