Nael deus Darnus - T9

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

It doesn't kill the entire party, so it's not quite the same, since you can recover from it as long as everyone else isn't braindead.

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Do you know what else is doable if everyone isn't braindead?

T9.

I kinda agree, it's pretty hard to find players skilled enough and willing to farm it even on PF, who don't die on DB, or even worse, on giants...

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Originally Posted by AppropriateName8544

I kinda agree, it's pretty hard to find players skilled enough and willing to farm it even on PF, who don't die on DB, or even worse, on giants...

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You do realize that at 60 with current gear you can kill it with 4 people? There are also these nifty things called Linkshells and Free Companies...usually they're full of people that you enjoy doing things with and who like to help their fellow members...

Stuff doesn't need to get nerfed just because some people aren't skilled enough at the game to clear it. The fights are all scripted, Mechanic A happens, then Mechanic B, then Mechanic C. If people can't learn to drop the meteors a safe distance away from each other after the first couple wipes then they should probably avoid raiding of any kind. Also, at this point the only set of meteors you really need to worry about is the second set as any full, unsynced 60 group shouldn't be getting more than 2 meteors in the first phase.

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

I still think this particular mechanic should be nerfed to make the story mode less restrictive, given how sudden meteors are compared to the gear slimes. I should note that in some Gamescom interviews, Yoshi-P expressed an interesting more people doing the story.

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You keep calling it story mode. T9 isn't a story mode. It's the endgame raid it has always been plus echo and now unsynched.

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

Or maybe the difficulty of that mechanic is unreasonable for what what is now essentially a story mode fight? Why are people so defensive at the thought if T9 being turned into casual story mode like Alexander Normal?

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The thing is... it's not meant to be a story mode fight. It used to the top tier raiding content out there, just like Savage Alex is now. It is already a hundred times easier than what it used to be with unsynced, echo and overgearing.

I don't really understand people. Instead of learning the fights, they go through sheer effort to write dozens of posts on the forums as to why something should get nerfed. It was the same thing with Steps of Faith that ultimately led it to being nerfed, despite being a really easy fight. T9, however, is optional content that gives no real incentive doing it aside the story, glamours and the title after t13 (which should've remained synced exclusive). There is no need to nerf T9. As said, it's already vastly easier than what it used to be, and it's completely optional. You don't have to do it. If you want the story, then just go and watch it on youtube. It's a good thing people still find incentive in doing the coils, but they shouldn't be nerfed even more into oblivion than they already are just to meet the very weakest player in this game. You don't need to be great to beat T9 unsynced. You don't even need to be good. You just need not to be a complete tool and fail to the same mechanic that you'll only even see once every time.

I don't know what's happened, but last I checked, being able to pull even minuscule mechanics was something to strive for. But with all these nerf threads going around, I feel like people are seeing more effort whining than actually learning the fight. With all the messages you have put here in the forums OP, you could've used that time to clear an already nerfed to death fight in the actual game.

It's way easier to do it unsynced. you just need to do it with people who actually know the mechanics because you still need to do it correctly.

I would feel embarrassed and extremely lazy to come to forums asking for nerf of content that is atleast 1 year old and can be cleared with 4 people on level 60.

In glamour farm linkshell we cleared it for atleast dozen people so they could farm it with us...

You can kill Nael before divebombs with unsync. lol
Was doing a bunch of that yesterday and the day before because some friends wanted glamour.

Not much i can say that hasnt already been said, so i offer you what i can.

Take your time
Play it with friends
Learn the fight from start to finish.

and

http://i.imgur.com/DxHKHUp.png

Turn 9 Mechanics is like performing brain surgery. You are forced to do it over so many times that when first successful, most of the steps have become second nature.