Gunhalberd?!

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Originally Posted by RemnantWolf

Gunception

It's a gun inside of a gun inside of a gun.

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I haven't even seen it but so much win!

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Originally Posted by Holyomen

67 posts and no one suggests Gunaxe, I hate you all...
MRD gets no respect.

I mean it makes perfect sense, reloading a musket has the same delay as MRD auto attack.

/double MRD cry

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You gotta attach a rubberband to get like a... rubber band axe-bow

Gun Lalafell

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Originally Posted by Murugan

I know this is a joke thread but the "gun-halberd" has more basis in actual history than gunswords and just about anything else FF has used, or has been mentioned in the thread.

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Ya, it's funny that people are all, "gun-halberd pshaw" when that's the instrument of war that is more closely related to the Bayonet which wasn't even from that long ago. Instead people are actually wanting gun-blades...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet

Another time this sort of "gun-<insert item here>" happened was when a Japanese player actually took pictures of Legatus Darnus after the imperial attack in horizon.

The pictures can be found from a link in the OP.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post285325

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Originally Posted by Rhomagus

Ya, it's funny that people are all, "gun-halberd pshaw" when that's the instrument of war that is more closely related to the Bayonet which wasn't even from that long ago. Instead people are actually wanting gun-blades...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet

Another time this sort of "gun-<insert item here>" happened was when a Japanese player actually took pictures of Legatus Darnus after the imperial attack in horizon.

The pictures can be found from a link in the OP.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post285325

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Wow... if his gun halberd resembled a old ass bayonet in any way I will be disappointing. Any gun with a blade on it, including the gun-blade, can be called a bayonet, but that's just not cool.

We all know what a halberd looks like, hopefully. Now, cool it up a bit and add a gun near the blade with the trigger at the wielding point.

Also,

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Originally Posted by Grand Company page

"In subjugating Ala Mhigo, van Baelsar employed subterfuge to stoke the fires of civil unrest, a masterstroke that led to the nation's capture without the need for a protracted siege."

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Looks as if Nael van Darnus is attempting to use the same tactics as his compatriot.

A a possible foreshadowing present in the description of Gaius van Belsar's weapon:

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Originally Posted by Grand Company page

Heirsbane- a gunblade said to have spilled the blood of nine apirants to the crown.

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Perhaps they could be at odds with one another seeing as how Nael van Darnus...

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Originally Posted by Grand Company page

boasts distinguished parentage in his sire, a founding figure of the Garlean Empire.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Wow... if his gun halberd resembled a old ass bayonet in any way I will be disappointing. Any gun with a blade on it, including the gun-blade, can be called a bayonet, but that's just not cool.

We all know what a halberd looks like, hopefully. Now, cool it up a bit and add a gun near the blade with the trigger at the wielding point.

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Some of the French and German bayonets had extensively long blades at the end. Modern U.S. bayonets have a combat knife attached to the end.

Darnus and Baelsar's weapons are more "weapon" than "gun" if that's what you're worried about. You can view Baelsar's weapon in the R46 cutscene and Darnus' can be seen in the OP of the link I provided above, but I'll provide the direct link here to the player's lodestone blog.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=220872

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Originally Posted by Eugenics

Gun Underpants.

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Gun marmot

Its a rat with a musket attached to his head... So, you have nutgrabbers, nutbiters, nutbreakers.... and now nutblowers... They're all gonna love your nuts. It completes the set. XD

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Originally Posted by Rhomagus

Ya, it's funny that people are all, "gun-halberd pshaw" when that's the instrument of war that is more closely related to the Bayonet which wasn't even from that long ago. Instead people are actually wanting gun-blades...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet

Another time this sort of "gun-<insert item here>" happened was when a Japanese player actually took pictures of Legatus Darnus after the imperial attack in horizon.

The pictures can be found from a link in the OP.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post285325

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I actually wasn't referring to bayonnet I was referring to actual examples in both European warfare of halberd type weapons and pikes which were also muzzle loaded muskets, or the use of some similar weapons in Japanese warfare during the Sengoku Jidai. Actual gunblade type weapons in history.

They were never widely used, they were impractical, but then again the majority of weapons included in XIV (or any game) were never widely used by any army. Impractical however does not mean useless.

The gun baghnakhs I mentioned earlier for example were used in close range combat to pierce a hole in heavy armor before the shot back when gunpowder weapons were fairly weak. Either that or simply having a melee weapon to use once your single shot had been used made these weapons useful for the time, it's just that equipping a large army with them would be incredibly expensive so it never happened.

By the time they could be produced in mass quantity enough that large armies could equip gunpowder weapons those guns were powerful/reliable enough, and could be reloaded quick enough that it was no longer necessary to really carry a primarily melee weapon (though of course the bayonet/knife were/are still used).

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Gun Musket.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

I actually wasn't referring to bayonnet I was referring to actual examples in both European warfare of halberd type weapons and pikes which were also muzzle loaded muskets, or the use of some similar weapons in Japanese warfare during the Sengoku Jidai. Actual gunblade type weapons in history.

They were never widely used, they were impractical, but then again the majority of weapons included in XIV (or any game) were never widely used by any army. Impractical however does not mean useless.

The gun baghnakhs I mentioned earlier for example were used in close range combat to pierce a hole in heavy armor before the shot back when gunpowder weapons were fairly weak. Either that or simply having a melee weapon to use once your single shot had been used made these weapons useful for the time, it's just that equipping a large army with them would be incredibly expensive so it never happened.

By the time they could be produced in mass quantity enough that large armies could equip gunpowder weapons those guns were powerful/reliable enough, and could be reloaded quick enough that it was no longer necessary to really carry a primarily melee weapon (though of course the bayonet/knife were/are still used).

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Ah, good to know. I was unfamiliar.