A slap across the face, in the long term, isn't going to cause any lasting damage, but one delivered without reason,particularly for something someone else did, and people will rightly get pissed. There is no reason to defend this practice when the solution (punish the offending withdrawer/timeout player only, and on their 3rd strike)is so obvious. Much like a player in a improper ilvl avg, the party will already be unable to enter the duty finder again, until the punished player is removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
Duty finder lockout for not pressing ready, is this new?
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11-04-2014, 03:34 AMKallera
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11-04-2014, 03:42 AMNyarukoWIt is about time they did this. For a couple day, it was beautiful how there was no withdraws, but starting on Friday, like 3 days later, people are starting to withdraw more, seems that penalty is not heavy enough and they are happy to blow it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
You know what is a repeated slap cross the face. How it was before 2.4. You queue ST and you have to click commence 15 times in the next 10 minutes just to get in. And it was like this everytime over and over. That is a multiple slaps and total disrespect to the rest of the player base, taking everyone else for granted and expecting them to be there for you at your beck and call. Enough is enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera
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11-04-2014, 03:53 AMElimYeah. This, sorta. I think the withdraw penalty is great, it just shouldn't be party-wide. Only the person who withdrew should get a strike or lockout. If the devs created party-wide penalties because they think parties will abuse withdraws if everyone isn't punished, then the person who withdrew in a party should get automatically locked out instead of a strike....or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera
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11-04-2014, 03:58 AMDelmontyb
I have really enjoyed this change, as it has reduced the amount of failed pops. Good job SE, the system seems fair.
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11-04-2014, 04:09 AMKalleraI don't much give a damn about your plight when I have friends that are getting locked out for duties they didn't withdraw from. As a DPS that has to go through monstrous wait time for the duty finder in the first place, I have 0 sympathy for your lousy 10 minutes for current content that had no shortage of runners queuing up.Quote:
Originally Posted by NyarukoW
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11-04-2014, 04:18 AMSummerRiderI'm not sure I follow what you are complaining about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera
"I don't much give"-- I understand you don't care about others.
"friends that are getting locked" -- How are they getting locked out? You said they didn't withdraw from the duty, so how are they getting locked out?
"As a DPS ... monstrous wait time ... 0 sympathy" -- Ok I once again understand you don't care about others.
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11-04-2014, 04:20 AMNyarukoWExactly... Case in point of the entitled attitude. Everyone else on all the servers are all supposed to be there for your beck an call. I am sure now that you and your friend tripped over it and got a 30 minute lockout, you would not be doing this again. So this is the right way to do things. The collective punishment is fitting and appropriate so that people can not gang up and don't get to try and game the system. This was singularly the most obvious and good QOL fix and probably one of the best things to be released with 2.4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera
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11-04-2014, 04:26 AMKalleraI am not "gaming" any system! Where did I say *I* ran into the problem? I am seeing the bad results of this across twitter and other social media. The problem is that if and when a lockout does occur, it will guarantee drama and an extra 30 minutes, on top of the usual annoyance of playing a DPS character in df. All that, literally one phone call away. And it needn't even be your phone in a party!Quote:
Originally Posted by NyarukoW
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11-04-2014, 04:31 AMAlukah
I like the lockout, I think it was a great addition, but guys please stop blindly defending every little thing square enix does, the "forum white knight" job position isn't open yet. I fully support the lockout, but the system still requires some polishing, it's still new and you will see several changes over the time based on player feedback.
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11-04-2014, 04:32 AMNyarukoWWhat bad results. The whining from all the people that were used to abusing the DF and fishing for god knows what? The results in general has been most pleasant in game. Queue and go on 4 player dungeons almost every time. At most 1 withdrawal from ST or CT. This is solid proof that it is working great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera