ATMA nerfing - An addressal to those who object to it.

When are they faster? Took me a twice as long to do Animus as Atma and I did a book a day, Yesterday I did two books.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

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Again, if you personally don't get anything out of the Atma hunt, don't do it. Nobody is forcing you to participate. And surely, not doing it shouldn't be a big problem if whatever awaits you at the end is of no great interest to you.

I didn't find it so hot constantly dying to Titan because people claimed lag whenever they got hit by Weight or flew of the platform because apparently their mother was streaming her daily soap opera in the room next to them. Still, I went through it and got my relic after quite a long trial time.

After successfully getting all 12 atmas, swearing profusely and bitching about it, I feel I actually accomplished something and can finally upgrade to Novus and then Nexus. Yes it is a mindless grind at times but I actually did some fates I have never done before....that counts as something in my books. And you are completely independent from other players so nobody can complain about others holding them back this time around. That is also something I appreciate.

Could I live without the grind? Sure I could. But then how would you incorporate a challenging step in the Atma hunt that people won't complain about again?

I think regardless of what SE would do, you will always find some people not being happy about it. Should we always cater to them because they want stuff right here and right now without any effort? I don't think so.

I want you to suffer.....

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Originally Posted by Starvald

I never said Atma was BiS. I said Atma after all upgrades (which I would hope people would understand as upgrade to Nexus) is best weapon in game only rivaled by High Allagan. But seriously, if someone doesn't have the patience to grind for Atma I would guess they don't make it into Coil 2 either. Because running for High Allagan weapon takes even longer than Atma unless you really really have a lot of luck.

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Say that to my 2 high allagan weapons and 7/12 atma :P

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Originally Posted by Malevicton

Say that to my 2 high allagan weapons and 7/12 atma :P

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Spend less time doing Coil and more time doing Fates.

having a problem with other people having a problem, ah the absurdities of the official forum never cease ....

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Originally Posted by Starvald

Should we always cater to them because they want stuff right here and right now without any effort? I don't think so.

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People like you are part of the problem. You throw out "no effort" as if the people who are getting the shaft on RNG havent put in plenty of time AND effort and still gotten moogled by SE's stupid system.

Just because YOU got lucky.......

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Originally Posted by Teirshin

People like you are part of the problem. You throw out "no effort" as if the people who are getting the shaft on RNG havent put in plenty of time AND effort and still gotten moogled by SE's stupid system.

Just because YOU got lucky.......

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Thanks for your input. It is noted! Next upgrade SE introduces, I will ask them for an uber weapon with a nice bow around it for you which you get via moogle post ok?

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Originally Posted by Malevicton

Say that to my 2 high allagan weapons and 7/12 atma :P

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I'll raise to 3 High Allagan and 32/36 Atma.

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Originally Posted by Starvald

Thanks for your input. It is noted! Next upgrade SE introduces, I will ask them for an uber weapon with a nice bow around it for you which you get via moogle post ok?

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Why? I certainly dont need it. I've been smart enough to avoid stupid things like ATMA grind, but that doesnt mean I dont feel for those getting screwed by it.

People who got their ATMA within a reasonable timeframe though need to stop and realize that they got lucky and stop crapping on those who are still busting their backs against SE's stupid system.