Vote for a EU server in EU

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

seriously it's only a rants for make it special when after all the population of the europe are not enough for worth the budget needed for a datacenter

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You're very difficult to understand, but just in case you aren't aware - more people live in Europe than in North America.

I think it's hilarious and sad both that you think it's perfectly fine for Europeans to suffer from latency on American servers, but apparently would find it horrible if Americans suffered from latency on European servers. I'm also not sure you understand what's being requested here. Nothing would change about the international aspect of the game, people from EU could still play on NA and vice-versa, the difference would be that people from EU would actually get good latency on their designated servers, instead of not having a single datacenter catering to them, because every single one is placed in NA.

I don't see Eu server is a need, I play on Excalibur from Denmark and I have not really any issue with the dodge or w/e, if I get hit it is either I don't bother to dodge or because I am slow, of course there is a 1-2 sec delay or you cant avoid the aoe after the cast bar get to 75% but you shouldn't wait until that last second. Just my unpopular opinion

how many player from europe and how many player from america? and we don't talk only of the united states here, we talk of the canada, bresil,...
like said before, the famous latency a lot of player have hit the american too...
and not every datacenter are in usa, some are in japan, do australia have asked for them own datacenter?

anyway, it's useless ranting, because, they have already stated while the beta and a lot of time that it will not happend. you can scream and cry all you want, they don't want to invest money in a datacenter for europe... they was kind enough to say this cluster of server are recommanded for the european, because seriously, this game is means to be international... but european are always unsatisfied and ask for more. why not ask server per language too!

Yoshi already said they are working on an EU datacenter. Patience

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

and we don't talk only of the united states here, we talk of the canada, bresil,...

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I said "North America". I did not say "United States".
The game is still international if you place a server in Europe. What the hell are you afraid of? And where does your apparent hate for Europeans stem from?

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Originally Posted by Millerna

They never said the EU tagged servers would ever be physically moved to the EU though, so a lot of people who are not EU, but play during EU primetime have selected the EU servers. There are also a lot of players who prefer to play with people from all over the world, and there was already quite the discussion going on when they decided to split JP servers from the NA/EU ones.

The better option would be new servers and a limited free transfer for those who want to transfer, rather than force everyone to a different datacenter.

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So, because of a minority, the whole EU population has to be screwed to move away from their own servers? So those are not really EU servers after all, right? Not to mention that nowhere in-game does it say "hey, be aware that these EU servers are not placed in the EU", so many outsiders (besides an informed minority that visits the forums and whatnot) are choosing these based on other preferences aside from the ping that they might have.

Why couldn't said minority, playing in servers not intended for them, bear with the latency issues that they will suffer if the servers are moved, but it's ok that many EU players are suffering them in their very own servers right now? Do you really see that fair or logical? I don't. If anything give free transfers out of said EU servers if they were moved, but not the opposite, as it wouldn't make sense that it would be the main population the one that had to move away from their own servers.

If the situation was the opposite and the NA servers were placed in the EU I would be fine with them being moved out to America, even if I was playing in one of them, without giving their population any more headaches. It would be logical to put the primary server population over the rest, and I would had know that risk when choosing a NA tagged server (as things can and do change).

I'll say it again, and more clearly, hopefully. Europe ≠ International. EU players shouldn't have to take any extra mile, either to play normally (tunneling software) or to have servers located in Europe (transfers out of EU servers). If anyone has taken them for international servers when they aren't tagged as such, they made a mistake. They, not the players that actually thought about them as European servers, specially when nowhere in-game does it say that they aren't.

It's understandable that SE didn't want to risk more money with FFXIV's relaunch, and I understood it and even defended them during the beta when the new datacenter locations where announced, but now that the game is doing fine I would like to know if there's any real excuse as to not move the Chaos datacenter to Europe. Is it even being considered at all?

And remember that this isn't just about "you" (not directed at the quoted one) or "me". It's about many people that have issues when playing overseas and that would notice a great improvement if the servers where located close to us. We have to play with these people, after all, so even if "you" and "me" don't have any issues, it can affect us too in the end. Unless you say "screw them", of course.

Currently there's "three" (well, two, but you know what I mean) datacenters: Japan, North America, and Europe. I know that it's not fair for oceanic, south american, and even west coast players, but that's a whole different issue. The fact is that there does exist an EU datacenter and it's located in Canada. And that causes issues to many players, both those currently playing and also many that left the game because of it.

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoint

Yoshi already said they are working on an EU datacenter. Patience

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That's wonderful news, and I didn't know it. Do you have any source for that info, please?

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Originally Posted by Riepah

I said "North America". I did not say "United States".
The game is still international if you place a server in Europe. What the hell are you afraid of? And where does your apparent hate for Europeans stem from?

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then south america don't count? ocenic player don't count? if we follow this sort of idea we need to get server on each continent!
seriously, they bring the server in europe, meaning my friend with who i play are not able to play with me, because i play with people from different continent... i will quit the game! what the point to play to an international game where i can't play with my friend that out of europe.

personally i'm at 100-120 ms all the time i don't see the lag and that like this for age (even if at the start i had lag like every body)... then i begin to wonder from where come this lag that soo many people are talking about... and i don't have a very good connection believe me.

anyway, i was at the start against the fact to loose the japanese and all the people from this side of world and if i must loose the rest... i don't see the point to play to an another clone of wow that have a lot of flaws recently. like a lot of people i continue to play to the game for play with my friend, if they strips me of my friend... well i will be out normal!

all i see here it's people simply coming crying for add something that will change almost nothing to the game that cost tons of money for SE and will probably destroy countless guild simply for get 20-60ms change? seriously?!?


and one question tough, let say they do it and move all the chaos cluster on a european server.
they offer a free migration for the other that don't want to come along...

who gonna pay for the housing of the guild that will be forced to move out? who gonna pay for the destruction of the guild made with people from both side? for the personal room payed already? all of this will be lost for the person forced to move out because you ask for a change of 20-60 ms... think about it instead to only see your own interest.

@Silentwindfr : Actually having Chaos in Europe doesn't mean you can't still play with your friends ? I don't get your point...

because american net is not as good as our actually, when you heard of american of the west coast that have more latency than us, what will happend if they are on Chaos? the latency will increase, they will be forced to move out for? not even need to go to the west coast, even the people from florida will have more latency that like this. your change will only create a rift, forcing european to one side and american with normal connection to the other.

it did happend when they have move a part of the cluster to america, because at the start all the server was in japan, when they have move the NA/EU server to canada all the japanese and people from this side of the world had no other choice than move out. luckily at that time the game was starting, but now after almost 1 years, the add of tons of stuff like housing and other this will have a huge impact.

let's take the exemple of a small guild with 10 member all 50 that suddenly are forced to drop them S house, the 10 personal room and most of the stuff because they can't carry it. they need to drop the level of them guild, the point they had already... and move out and restart from the scratch them guild, forced to wait to get the right rank for get the house, and if they move on server already installed they will have no house avalaible for them... i wonder how many guild will survive this.

and i don't talk of guilde that have half member european and half american like mine that will simply disappear, because the american will be forced to stay behind. yeah in a way i see my interest as guild master. but i'm realistic and pragmatic... this change will have a huge impact, cost a lot for 20-60ms.

and even if they decide to go with the creation of new server, you will still have trouble from the massive exodus of the european for the europe server.


if SE decide to go with this i will take it like a huge slap in the face of the people that did make them guild with people from all around the world.

I'm going to vote for a EU server. On the moon.

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