FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

Why you are angry about what happens?
If you have to find a monster on a big map and you NEED it for a quest... well thats not the problem.
But when you search that monster for hours and finally it spawns near, you run instant to its location just to see it dieing and you can start from where you begun anew...
Way too low Life to reach the monster in time, that way they should have made one spawn for each player and not one for the server...
also if you could camp a location it may be better than what we have now, that searching is stupid.

What we see on Odin and Behemoth FATES: LS and FC are keeping the spawn secret to have it for their own friends...

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

If you want to "catch" people, just rename your chocobo to a hunt in that zone and hide behind some rocks in an obscure spot. If people directly run to you then stop all confused then you know lol.

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Just tried this out myself. One of the well known radar using FC members didn't seem too impressed with my impression of Garlok. But in all seriousness, how much more proof do we need to find for them. Multiple players have seen and reported them and still nothing.

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Originally Posted by Pyreflye

That is nothing but a misleading image.

The FFXIV App overlay does not scale to your in-game map.
You're telling me there's a Snow Wolf Pup spawned outside the map?

No.
I tested it out for myself earlier to confirm all the stuff people say about it.
What you posted is nothing but misleading nonsense.

Did you even read the chat box?
"Something pops within render distance"

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Does this somehow make it less of an advantage? Or any less illegal?

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Originally Posted by Ephany

What I don't understand, is why it's sooooooo important for these people to "win" to the point that they feel the need to exploit through third party software.
I mean... it's just a game, right?
Competition in hunts and pvp is part of the game. So really, what will they do when they have everything by doing nothing then have nothing left to do.

My brain is frazzled but I know what I'm trying to say >.<

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I don't think it ever was about winning (maybe for a very limited group of people). Usually it would be to avoid wasting time. Like in FF11, where it is better to cheat and get fafnir after 3 hours camping, than to camp 3 hours and lose it so you wasted 3 hours for nothing.

PS. My LS never cheated, but I am well aware of how frustrated I was to always be asked to go camp for hours for nothing and waste my life.

i assume people pissed at this are new to the mmo scene? not really an exploit.
any mmo worth its salt has these things. add ons that spot and point you to mining/gathering nodes rare spawn locations, that have alarms for boss abilities etc etc. nothing new or extraordinary here.

puzzled.

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Originally Posted by Pyreflye

How am I being a bitch by proving you wrong.
It's your own fault for not researching the images you find.

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It's not what you're saying/doing, it's how you say/do it. Your post is completely dripping with a condescending attitude, as are all of your previous posts.

That's my last piece on the matter, I'm not going to derail the topic any further or waste my time feeding into your ego.

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Originally Posted by razzgrizz3

i assume people pissed at this are new to the mmo scene? not really an exploit.
any mmo worth its salt has these things. add ons that spot and point you to mining/gathering nodes rare spawn locations, that have alarms for boss abilities etc etc. nothing new or extraordinary here.

puzzled.

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It is an exploit because they don't allow third party software like this, and people are using it to claim an advantage in the Hunt system.

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Originally Posted by LadyVal

It's not what you're saying/doing, it's how you say/do it. Your post is completely dripping with a condescending attitude, as are all of your previous posts.

That's my last piece on the matter, I'm not going to derail the topic any further or waste my time feeding into your ego.

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I know I came across as condescending, it was intentional.

Your post gave your word off as fact, and I proved you wrong.
Now, instead of simply admitting that you were mistaken, you are taking to insulting me and bringing my "ego" into it.

Sorry for proving you wrong, I guess?

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Originally Posted by Wolfram_Alexandros

I assume we agree that people who are using this app like this are cheating and should be banned.

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I absolutely agree.

People should have the common sense to see that these kinds of things have the potential to be a bannable offense.
They use it at their own risk, and if it leads to a ban, then so be it.

If SE had launched the game with addon support, or had at least implemented it on schedule, this wouldn't be nearly as big of an issue. The fact that people had to turn to 3rd party programs just to find out if they were doing decent DPS or to help them react to a boss faster opened the floodgates. Once you're running a third-party program there's little barrier to simply tacking on another "feature" like this. A regulated addon environment could have enabled the "essentials" while leaving grey area stuff like this outside the scope. Far fewer people would be willing to install a third-party program if they could get those things through a first-party sanctioned channel.

I am not advocating for third-party programs, DPS meters, or anything else, but it's an unavoidable fact that a very significant portion of the playerbase wants certain things and will turn to a third party for them if they are unavailable, as they have in this game.

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Originally Posted by Pyreflye

I absolutely agree.

People should have the common sense to see that these kinds of things have the potential to be a bannable offense.
They use it at their own risk, and if it leads to a ban, then so be it.

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So you have admitted to having third party software, and that you have used it in the past with the parser, so we both agree you should be banned.