Petition to support polygamous marriage (when the system is released).

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Originally Posted by Niqote

^^ Some things are just better RPed anyways.

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Amusingly this is my attitude toward the entire marriage system. And yet here we are.

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Originally Posted by Kerberon

I'm very disappointed with this community on the forums with this thread.

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Wail and gnash your teeth all you want. I don't believe for half a second that SE will actually do this and I have zero personal interest in any marriage system: straight, gay, poly, or otherwise. I'm just pointing out a rather blatant fact when I say that polygamy is already established in game. If there's anything disappointing about this thread it's the double standard being applied to equal rights. "Polygamy" is the greatest fear of the gay rights supporter, because they know it does even more than "traditional marriage" to undermine their cause. They get all indignant about being oppressed, then turn around and do the exact same thing to an even smaller minority because it serves their own self-interest.

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Originally Posted by Rosy

Just because a few (VERY few) people indulge in what is considered illegal in the majority of countries/religions in this world, does NOT make it ok to ask for.

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Your thoughtless blanket statement here basically just ruled out gay marriage, too. Think more critically about your arguments to avoid giving the wrong impression.

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Originally Posted by Velox

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f_polygamy.png
From Wikipedia:
Black = legalized
Gray = unknown
Light blue = illegal, but the law doesn't crack down on it
Dark blue = highly illegal and considered a criminal act punishable to the fullest extent of the law (varies by country)
Yea....no, I HIGHLY doubt SE would ever consider a "formal" addition in this game. Stick to your RP-made harems.

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You've got to be kidding me. That's essentially the entire Muslim world, covering more than 1.9 billion people and over 25% of the world's population. By comparison, the gay population in America is estimated to be less than 4%.

People in here are nuts...

Enough! Stop pulling on Yoshida's arm all the time.
You're acting like kids who absolutelly want their candy.

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Originally Posted by SirSaber

People in here are nuts...
SE's gone throw some issues and still made Mariage free of any restrictions and now OP wants MultiMariage ?

Enough! Stop pulling on Yoshida's arm all the time.
You're acting like kids who absolutelly want their candy.

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Well actually... serious OP or not there is a point to be made about the concept of marriage equality that the once vocal supporters are now mysteriously silent about.

The irony being pointed out is that after one group received what they considered "equality" they turned very quickly on the idea of a another group in a similar situation.

The idea that those who are Polyamorous / Polysexual are now ridiculous or asking for too much is quite shocking considering the number of threads and complaints that went up for months about the same sex issue. In fact this very thread joke or not was something that people were repeatedly warning others about when the issue first came up, that the game should not be a platform for political issues concerning equality especially if you aren't willing to take it all the way (haha yes i know).

To those who will propose the slippery slope argument that Pedophilia, Bestiality, etc etc are byproducts of this line of thinking i hope you are aware of the very clear distinction between relationships formed by sexual orientation and relationships formed by consent and understanding.

The issues of Pedophilia and Bestiality arise based on the fact that in those types of relationships only one of the partners has the mental facilities to actually consent to said relationship, it's why the age of consent laws actually vary from area to area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of..._North_America.

You can see how this is massively different than a relationship formed by multiple consenting adults of legal age.

If anything the lesson to take away from this is to be very careful when asking for something to be added to the game while waving the banner of "Equal Rights For All!" without understanding what that truly entails.

I should make it clear that while i dont paticularly care about in game marriage i respect Yoshida's decision to add same sex partnerships to the game via the eternal bonding system and give credit to the entire FFXIV staff and Square-Enix for handling this charged topic quite gracefully, unfortunately the same cannot quite be said about the community.

Just to show that polygamy is already an existing system in this game (and while I don't think formal polygamy will be implemented, this information may be useful to those who choose to RP as typical Miqo'te):

Seekers of the Sun:

"Males do not take family names, as they are each considered the 'origins' of new families. In place of a family name, they are given a title that denotes their tribe, and their position within it. For a male Seeker of the Sun, there are only two positions available—breeding males (nunh – pronounced 'noon') and all others (tia – pronounced 'tea-ah'). All males are born as tia. At any time in their lives, a tia can challenge the tribe nunh to battle. If the tia is victorious, he takes the nunh's place as tribe breeding male (until he is challenged and defeated), and the nunh becomes a tia once again (if he survives the ordeal). This is done to ensure that the tribes offspring are of the finest stock. Depending on its size, a tribe may have multiple nunh (a ratio of one nunh per ten to fifty females is average).

There is only one other way a tia can become a nunh, and that is to leave his tribe, and start his own. This, of course, requires several females to accomplish, and most female Seekers of the Sun are rarely impressed by a male who cannot defeat a nunh. As all letters of the alphabet are already taken by the 26 original tribes, any new tribes founded by tia are named with a second letter, such as "Ma" (e.g. "Ma'shtola"). These tribes tend to die out due to the aforementioned lack of women.

Nunh status does not equate to leadership within a tribe, and in fact, very few nunh ever become leaders.

A female first name will always begin with the letter representing her tribe, followed by an apostrophe, and then her given name. Her last name is the first name of the tribe's breeding male who sired her."

Keepers of the Moon:

"Unlike the Seekers of the Sun, the Keepers of the Moon is a highly matriarchal society, with family names passed down from the mother, not the father. It is said that some of these surnames have survived since the First Astral Era.

The Keepers of the Moon lead more solitary lives, rarely forming communities of more than two or three families. Therefore, a tribal letter is not assigned to the names.

The matriarchal strength is further displayed by the fact that female first names are short, one/two syllable constructions that closely resemble names used by male Seekers of the Sun.

More evidence of how important the mother is to the Keepers of the Moon can be seen when looking at the names given to males. In addition to taking the mother's surname, males also take the mother's forename, adding a suffix (separated by an apostrophe) to the end to designate the order in which they were born."

All of this comes from the lore on how Miqo'Te name themselves;

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Miqo'te/Naming

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Originally Posted by Melithea

Your thoughtless blanket statement here basically just ruled out gay marriage, too. Think more critically about your arguments to avoid giving the wrong impression.

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My statement was not thoughtless ;)

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Originally Posted by Ryel

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You're right.

I didn't care about same sex marriage because this is a game.
Sadly some people are and think to much for their own good and tend to push small mater into the extreme.
Wanting "equal rights for all" in a game ? Well w-e.

I think people are too egoistic and absolutely want the game to go their way.
And that's what pisses me off.

I only hope SE will not yield to w-e demands players come to ask them.

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Originally Posted by Dhex

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The lore is very interesting, but there is a lot in there about sexual relationships, not actual marriage. Miqote behaviour is very similar to that of the animal kingdom (apart from humans). Animals don't have marriage ceremonies, they have multiple sexual relationships. Even those species which have one partner for life...don't "marry", that is a human thing and revolves purely round religion and in the case of non religious marriages, the law.

Just when you think you've seen it all. xD

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Originally Posted by Memex

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in FFXI they had a application which I told my age in order to qualify or get on a list if I remember right.

Though people tend to take it serious and start to mess around in real life, if SE allows a youngster to marry a adult and then something happens a parent could sue SE.

The court would rule in the favor of the parent do the child does not have the power of say so yet, wouldn't matter if the parent wasn't paying attention either because they thought they were actually playing the game not messing around. not saying it will happen but it could.

Just looking out for SE's best interest here.

Oh and one more thing, if you don't believe that stuff happens, you ever seen the private chat locked rooms on FFXI private chat servers, the titles asking for young people and only room for 2 this stuff happened lots there when maintenance happened.

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Originally Posted by Rosy

The lore is very interesting, but there is a lot in there about sexual relationships, not actual marriage. Miqote behaviour is very similar to that of the animal kingdom (apart from humans). Animals don't have marriage ceremonies, they have multiple sexual relationships. Even those species which have one partner for life...don't "marry", that is a human thing and revolves purely round religion and in the case of non religious marriages, the law.

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Precisely - hence the "it's based in tradition" and never bringing marriage up except to say that an Eorzean Union is likely only legally recognized if it's between two individuals...

I think Eorzea is a pretty interesting place. I'm excited to see more of the greater world.