Gutted about the lacklustre quality of the PS4 beta

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

aka not retail, at you own risk with no warranty, with your own parts and labor.

Basically it's the old "I can renovate my own home" clause.

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Every part you buy has it's own individual warranty, and building a pc is like playing with legos, every slot is clearly marked as what is supposed to go there. Anybody who thinks it's hard is either parroting what they have been told, willfully ignorant, or both.

Don't really care about fancy graphics (as long as they are above certain threshold). What matters are frames per second. And currently PS4 is miserable.

HD7870 2gb

athlon ii x4 740 (also can use 750k, phenom ii 850, athlon x4 640, intel i3, a8-3800 apu or higher)

2x 2gb 1333 ram

corsair 430W PSU (only 300W needed)

am3+ motherboard (or any cheap 40 dollars mobo that fits your cpu's socket)

10 dollars case

cheap HDD

Same as a PS4 and beats it. If you cannot find money for that PC, then you need a different hobby.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

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A GTX560 (and a 600w PSU to power it. Loud like i don't know what) actually. But you are right it wasn't as low as I thought it was (did a double check) and the last upgrades I did to it costs $230. So end result was about about $530 something, but it would be easier to just say $600 going higher. So to that I stand corrected, I did pay around your expected $600 price range.

Good show.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

Because really...the people who really care about graphics that much are the same people who spend $2000+ on a super-high-end PC and lord it over everyone...

The average user doesn't care about graphics past "it looks pretty"; they care more about how fun the game is and how well it works.

And guess what? The PS4 version is fun...and it works.

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if you spend $2k on a PC you are foolish. A PC half that price will run it maxed out, even buying every part and building from scratch, maybe even less than that. Would be even cheaper if you had an old PC to salvage parts from. I'd even go so far as to say you could build a PC for the same price as a PS4 that would run the game just as well. I don't know why people are stuck on the idea that you have to be rich to have a PC that performs well on games.

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Originally Posted by Riv

if you spend $2k on a PC you are foolish. A PC half that price will run it maxed out, even buying every part and building from scratch, maybe even less than that. Would be even cheaper if you had an old PC to salvage parts from. I'd even go so far as to say you could build a PC for the same price as a PS4 that would run the game just as well. I don't know why people are stuck on the idea that you have to be rich to have a PC that performs well on games.

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Because truth be told, most people don't actually know how to build computers. Even those that do, aren't aware of how much you can push older tech. As stated with my awesome GTX560, most of the components in my computer is garbage, don't mean it won't play Skyrim at max settings. She may scream and complain but she'll run it.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

Because truth be told, most people don't actually know how to build computers.

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90% of pc gamers do.

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Originally Posted by Jeneti

Graphics look really good on the PS4 version but problem is the framerate is too low, even in empty areas :/

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That's because the frame rate is capped at 30 fps on PS4. On PC you can cap it at 60 fps or leave it uncapped.

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Originally Posted by Illya

That's because the frame rate is capped at 30 fps on PS4. On PC you can cap it at 60 fps or leave it uncapped.

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PC cap is based on your selected refresh rate.

I have 120hz monitor, when I have the 60 setting selected it actually caps at 120 fps.

What have read about the PS4 version it is capped at 60 FPS. It's not locked so who knows what the minimum or average fps is.

http://gamingbolt.com/final-fantasy-...eplay-at-1080p

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Originally Posted by Illya

That's because the frame rate is capped at 30 fps on PS4. On PC you can cap it at 60 fps or leave it uncapped.

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technically speaking unless you have a special monitor you want to cap it at 60fps anyway.

I don't believe they totally capped it at 30fps. It's smoother then 30 at times. ps4 even on unoptimized code is still a near brother to a HD 7870 or 7850(depending on who you ask). That should easily get you 50~ even in cities, and with some console code 60fps isn't a problem.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

Every part you buy has it's own individual warranty, and building a pc is like playing with legos, every slot is clearly marked as what is supposed to go there. Anybody who thinks it's hard is either parroting what they have been told, willfully ignorant, or both.

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no you don't you get parts warrenty. that's not manufacturers warranty.

CyberPC is probably the best example of retail, since they are the leading "gaming pc" package manufacturer

(This is with amazon)
Low profile crap gaming cyberpower pc = $500-$600
Non low profile 1080 gaming cyberpower pc = $800-$1000

Again, go renovate your bathroom with homedepot. It's legos, really!