Need to put lock outs on over populated jobs.

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Originally Posted by Archona

Yes, all viable options of course. Mor Dhona is better than using Duty Finder. Linkshells and Free Company are even better. However, the OP's point was that there is a tank shortage in the DF. I was just stressing that there ARE tanks out there, we just don't have a reason to do public DF groups at all.

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Just because YOU feel self entitled that you need to be paied to tank, does not mean every one else is that greedy. under no point or time should a suggestion to pay someone to take hits just so they don't wait in DF is ever a good idea. no matter how you slice it, it's an absurd thing to even suggest. their are ways to make gill in this game without trying to take advantage of people for your own self gain, not to mention you are more or less telling other tanks you are so good that you need to be paied. which further makes you look bad.

But thankfully your breed is very rare so it's not a problem people need to face. because chances are you'll end up finding a good tank anyway, that isn't asking you to pay them to play an MMO with you. so please, stop trying to justify it. because it does not make it any less silly. tank shortage or not, they aren't so rare that we won't ever find one that needs to be paied.

If there is a shortage on tanks eventually people will say screw it and level it up themselves...LOL no need to lock out jobs or pay people to play it. That is crazy!

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Originally Posted by Volcano

Just because YOU feel self entitled that you need to be paied to tank, does not mean every one else is that greedy. under no point or time should a suggestion to pay someone to take hits just so they don't wait in DF is ever a good idea. no matter how you slice it, it's an absurd thing to even suggest. their are ways to make gill in this game without trying to take advantage of people for your own self gain, not to mention you are more or less telling other tanks you are so good that you need to be paied. which further makes you look bad.

But thankfully your breed is very rare so it's not a problem people need to face. because chances are you'll end up finding a good tank anyway, that isn't asking you to pay them to play an MMO with you. so please, stop trying to justify it. because it does not make it any less silly. tank shortage or not, they aren't so rare that we won't ever find one that needs to be paied.

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While he is being somewhat arrogant, paying someone to tank for you is a viable option. If you are unable to wait and/or do not wish to, paying someone to do so is perfectly acceptable. It is a matter of convenience. Many tanks will go along without being paid, but to say that paying someone for their time is wrong or for someone to charge for the convenience of an insta queue, is in itself wrong. It's like materia melding. You don't have to tip them, but sometimes it is nice, and it's convenient if you haven't leveled your own craft to those levels yet. Paying a tank or group for a run is essentially tipping a DoW/M.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

But on the bigger issue there is a large tank shortage and overabundance of healers right now if you keep tabs on jobs being played in the game. On most nights the white mage/scholar numbers exceed 200 while paladin/warriors barely hit 200 played.

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Your suggestion is dumb and your facts are wrong.

Ever hear of the saying "time is money"? Do you understand what opportunity cost is? The time you spend looking for a party, waiting in queue, running back from wipes in DF, waiting for a replacement after someone AFKs/leaves, all that time can be spent doing something else.

In an hour I can run 4-6 WPs. Compare that to someone roughing it in the Duty Finder. They're lucky to get 1 run done in an hour.

Pay someone 5k and get 300-600 tomes per hour vs Other options @ 100-300 tomes per hour

Hmm thats a hard one.

I know crafters for every profession that I can go to for free/cheap combines/melds, doesn't mean I scoff at everyone who is charging 50k for a 2star HQ craft, nor do I call them 'self entitled'. You are free make your own friends in shout/linkshell/free company or to chance it in Duty Finder, or find a tank who either doesn't have the gear or the experience, that's your choice! But the option to pay someone still remains very viable. Sorry you care so much about your pennies.

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Originally Posted by Archona

But the option to pay someone still remains very viable. Sorry you care so much about your pennies.

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No one is going to pay you tank an instance for them. That's ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by reality_check

No one is going to pay you tank an instance for them. That's ridiculous.

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Actually, people pay me every day to tank instances for them. Some are even on friends list and come back as repeat customers each week.

Carrots, not sticks.

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Originally Posted by Archona

Actually, people pay me every day to tank instances for them. Some are even on friends list and come back as repeat customers each week.

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Repeat customers for your tanking service? Oh boy. This just keeps getting better.

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Originally Posted by Archona

Actually, people pay me every day to tank instances for them. Some are even on friends list and come back as repeat customers each week.

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Simple case of a fool and his money, does not mean everyone is that desperate, no different then someone paying 20k for an item thay can get from an NPC for 50 gill. impatience.

Nothing wrong with someone offering you gill if they feel the need to give away gill..