Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

Poked at EXDR and got Xelphatol as my instance. The DPS was so slow that we managed to see two lifts on the first boss, two on-highs on the second boss, and three Garuda summons on the final boss.

25 minute run in total, which I guess isn't bad per say but when you're used to running 13-15 minute runs you can feel that difference, lol.

Just go out of a Sunken Temple of Qarn (Normal) run that lasted 35~ minutes.

The level 50 PLD driving this struggle bus could not hold hate on more than one target for the life of him. On the second boss, I think everyone except for him took a turn tanking. Only upon death's sweet embrace of the DPS was he able to reestablish aggro.

I don't understand how someone gets so far yet has no concept of how to play their class. I offered up one tip which was, "Can you use [Flash] more? It's basically your only AoE enmity generator at this level." Silence. And no compliance as we proceeded the rest of the way.

At that point I was done. I wanted to go on some vitriol ridden rant at the end, but I refrained. Like what do you even say at that point and, more importantly, how do you say it nicely to someone that was such a complete and utter burden to the party?

I took a much needed break after that.

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Originally Posted by Azper

Just go out of a Sunken Temple of Qarn (Normal) run that lasted 35~ minutes.

The level 50 PLD driving this struggle bus could not hold hate on more than one target for the life of him. On the second boss, I think everyone except for him took a turn tanking. Only upon death's sweet embrace of the DPS was he able to reestablish aggro.

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the 2nd boss for Qarn normal is the golem, right? because i thought that thing didn't follow a normal threat table like the shadow dragon in Stone Vigil HM/Nidhogg

You are correct. It still happens where people yell at the tank in that boss when the tank has *nothing to do* with the golem deciding to go up and whack someone else in the face.

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Originally Posted by Mikaeus_The_Lunarch

the 2nd boss for Qarn normal is the golem, right? because i thought that thing didn't follow a normal threat table like the shadow dragon in Stone Vigil HM/Nidhogg

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Some of his attacks are random, though not all.

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Originally Posted by Rhindas

You are correct. It still happens where people yell at the tank in that boss when the tank has *nothing to do* with the golem deciding to go up and whack someone else in the face.

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I refuse to heal those people. They can get smacked to death.

So a couple of hours ago, I took some painkillers that were freshly prescribed by my doctor. Also, I am really really cold. Then I went on to do some other things, while enjoying a distinct lack of pain.

But apparently, the additional effects of these painkillers take a while to set in on me, because I signed up for Expert Roulette as AST. Somehow, my reaction time got shot to hell, to the point where I would just sit there, staring at the tank's HP going down, and thinking to myself, "I should heal," and then taking a few more seconds to actually start healing. Tank ended up dying a couple of times on trash pulls, and I was just too out of it to respond to it.

I'm sure I'll feel guilty about being so fail at healing in the morning, but right now, I can't feel anything except a vague sense of amusement. Also mostly I'm just so glad there's no pain. At least we never actually wiped during that run.

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Originally Posted by Miste

Well..if you choose not to believe me then that's fine O.o

I have posted stories before; a few of them anyway and they are in this thread so I didn't see the point of posting another one. I have a lot but I also don't have the kind of time to post them all xD

...then I don't see the problem with people telling other people some info.

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I actually can't believe you because that hasn't been my experience in dungeons. I've had that 1, maybe 2, issues with rude/"leetish" people in DF. I have noticed there are quite a few people in this thread that have multiple stories tho. I must be lucky not getting in groups with people like that. Not sure what else to say about that.

The problem with telling someone what to do, rather than being nicer about it and suggesting or asking about it, is that you don't know that player at all, and can run into a situation like I described earlier. I'm guessing there are very few people in this game that know every single job inside and out enough to be able to tell someone what to do in every single situation, instead of just suggesting something else be tried, or asking why they are or aren't doing something.

Again, it all comes down to how you approach the situation, and realizing the other person might take the "tone" of the help you think you're being nice about as being rude/"leetish."

After all this time, I've finally met one myself:

A Bard who refused to use Wanderer's Minuet because he doesn't like to "stand still" (although he does not need to, even with WM).

Am I part of the club now?

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Originally Posted by AutoWhit

I actually can't believe you because that hasn't been my experience in dungeons. I've had that 1, maybe 2, issues with rude/"leetish" people in DF. I have noticed there are quite a few people in this thread that have multiple stories tho. I must be lucky not getting in groups with people like that. Not sure what else to say about that.

The problem with telling someone what to do, rather than being nicer about it and suggesting or asking about it

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You've been lucky. I am always nice about it and if they ignore me I don't bother saying the same thing again. Only time I am not nice is if I casually politely offer tips and they insult me for it. I never say anything like "you HAVE to do this or that" I say "you should use this or that" or "if it's okay can you please use this or that" so I am still telling them information but it is in the form of a suggestion anyway.

Still no matter how nice I am I get salt back 90% of the time :/ even with smiley faces!