"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

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Originally Posted by Kyasunshine

No. It's just a subtlety of feeling. Objectively, everyone is important. But subjectively, everyone thinks differently. I have expressed my feelings above. And I don't mind if a lot of tanks think the same way. Being a tank is being someone to protect. DPS or a Healer who takes 1 hit from the mob he has aggroed destroys this atmosphere. I don't like that.

If you are tired of DF, this is the problem of the one who is tired of it. I love DF and I'm not bored. I get bored when people start speedrunning things. Treating them like something that they are tired of, soullessly. This mood spreads over me.

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If it's alright I'd like to give you an example from my own experience. I have pulled mobs as a dps and healer quite a few times (and rarely gotten a negative response, can still count on one hand). When I have done this a few things occur. I take a few hits and then the tank picks them back up. But in those few hits I use arms-length and give a slow debuff to the mobs, thus saving the tank the need to use that cooldown and I've helped them mitigate some damage with my own health bar. As a dps (I often play melee) I have my own hp regen abilities and as a primary WHM user I have assize to both damage the enemies and delete the damage I or a dps took. More abilities are being made use of then otherwise, health/mitigation is being conserved on the tank and allowing them to handle the pull easier.

You've mentioned the RPG aspect, well when I play single player RPGs I want to make as much use of my units as I can. Is that not what I'm doing in this example?

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Originally Posted by Kyasunshine

I repeat. I do not like the attitude to the game "I'm tired of it, I've seen it thousands of times." I have problems with my personal perception of the world. If a person is bored while going through the content - this boredom also affects me. Speedrunning is a show that the game is boring and I want to finish it faster for the sake of a reward.

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I'd like to clarify something here. If by speed running you mean double pulling, that's not speed running. The two are very different. Also double pulling isn't me wanting out of the instance sooner, I just have A LOT more fun when double pulling. Largely because there's no threat in single pulling. There's no chance of dying and no need to use more of my abilities. On a double pull I have more freedom to actually play the game and press the many buttons each class has.

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

Sometimes it's not about you.
So you love DF but get bored when people pull 2 packs instead of one. Got it.

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I hope you read my post in full. Just tell me if you understand me.

If your sarcastic comment is directed at me with your understanding, fine.

It will be sad if you misunderstood me.

I repeat. I do not like the attitude to the game "I'm tired of it, I've seen it thousands of times." I have problems with my personal perception of the world. If a person is bored while going through the content - this boredom also affects me. Speedrunning is a show that the game is boring and I want to finish it faster for the sake of a reward.

I would like my emotions to be with me. But my habit of reading other people's plays a cruel joke on me.

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Originally Posted by Kyasunshine

I hope you read my post in full. Just tell me if you understand me.

If your sarcastic comment is directed at me with your understanding, fine.

It will be sad if you misunderstood me.

I repeat. I do not like the attitude to the game "I'm tired of it, I've seen it thousands of times." I have problems with my personal perception of the world. If a person is bored while going through the content - this boredom also affects me. Speedrunning is a show that the game is boring and I want to finish it faster for the sake of a reward.

I would like my emotions to be with me. But my habit of reading other people's plays a cruel joke on me.

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I would recommend you finding similar minded people and group up with them for your own sake. Not everyone has the same feelings about same things. You'll just have to accept that.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

If it's alright I'd like to give you an example from my own experience. I have pulled mobs as a dps and healer quite a few times (and rarely gotten a negative response, can still count on one hand). When I have done this a few things occur. I take a few hits and then the tank picks them back up. But in those few hits I use arms-length and give a slow debuff to the mobs, thus saving the tank the need to use that cooldown and I've helped them mitigate some damage with my own health bar. As a dps (I often play melee) I have my own hp regen abilities and as a primary WHM user I have assize to both damage the enemies and delete the damage I or a dps took. More abilities are being made use of then otherwise, health/mitigation is being conserved on the tank and allowing them to handle the pull easier.

You've mentioned the RPG aspect well when I play single player RPGs I want to make as much use of my units as I can. Is that not what I'm doing in this example?

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I'll be brief. Looks good. I respect this approach.

I think my case of "pull dps" is when a person runs into another room far away and starts the fun there. Hope you little understand me)

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

I would recommend you finding similar minded people and group up with them for your own sake. Not everyone has the same feelings about same things. You'll just have to accept that.

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Heh true. If I wan't commends - I rush like flash. If I wan't RP and go slow - no commends. Good deal for me sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Kyasunshine

I'll be brief. Looks good. I respect this approach.

I think my case of "pull dps" is when a person runs into another room far away and starts the fun there. Hope you little understand me)

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Totally get you and that's a different problem all together. That's a classic situation of "pull the mobs to the tank". I'd never expect a tank to move over to me just to pick up some trash.

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Originally Posted by Kyasunshine

Heh true. If I wan't commends - I rush like flash. If I wan't RP and go slow - no commends. Good deal for me sometimes.

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Commends?
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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

Commends?
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Ahah Commendations. I hope right word hah. (no english user I think all see that).

But yes. I understood you. Agree. I'm already thinking about going back and changing my playstyle towards finding people who love RP.

Another problem remains with English lol. But this is my problem.

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Originally Posted by Kyasunshine

Ahah Commendations. I hope right word hah. (no english user I think all see that).

But yes. I understood you. Agree. I'm already thinking about going back and changing my playstyle towards finding people who love RP.

Another problem remains with English lol. But this is my problem.

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People care about commendations nowadays?

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

People care about commendations nowadays?

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I'm not from 2017 and still want a burger king crown. Yes I'm jealus+envy person. Yes yes and yes)