Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I hold off on wall-to-walling there?

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Nope! That is just Stone Vigil for you. The mobs in there are truly threatening for the level they appear at. Only Warrior has invuln there and no healer has complete kit. Must send prayer to the twelve if you are with White Mage in there because they are only healer without one single ogcd heal by that level.

It being story dungeon too means many under-geared sprouts just learning how to play. Those fricken sprites too are the most threatening things in that dungeon. They are the most likely to wipe any big pull attempt especially if you pull both groups in the second long hallway. You will likely wipe if someone pulls the Ziz in that adjacent room as well.

My rule for that place has always been if party deeps = good > big pull | if party deeps = bad > try double pull then single pull the sprite hallway because we are not spending forever wiping here.

Was supposed to wrote this since 4 days ago but kept forgetting: Titania via Trial Roulette.

At around 15% of health bar remaining, the WAR MT for whatever reason run past Titania while Divination Rune was being cast. Me (WHM) and my FCmate (PLD) spot this and immediately move out of the way. The other 5 ain't so lucky.

"Umm... I'm sorry.. I don't know why I just did that... lmao. I'm really sorry." said the WAR.

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Genuine question, how does one tank Stone Vigil? Getting Warrior and Dark Knight through that dungeon, there has never been one smooth run. I know the Dragon Aevis enemies hit for a ton, so do I pull small? People always try to get me to pull more wall-to-wall there but then everything goes to pot. Had one run where we accidentally pulled one dragon, 3 Ice Sprites, 3 more dragons, and then from out of the nether appeared 3 more Ice Sprites? They were being tugged along by a DD. I've no clue how but the SGE mentor healer got us through that, I died once though. Other times healers aren't able to heal through things at all, as if the danger isn't anticipated.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I hold off on wall-to-walling there?

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Honestly a good rule of thumb for ARR dungeons is to pull what you think you can handle. HW and onward the mobs are spaced out with the known idea of W2W pulling, but ARR there are a lot of optional mobs and areas where it's not clear when to stop for a first timer.

Duderinos why do so many of y'all join P1-4S and leave after 2 or 3?
Every week o_o.

So annoying.

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Genuine question, how does one tank Stone Vigil? Getting Warrior and Dark Knight through that dungeon, there has never been one smooth run. I know the Dragon Aevis enemies hit for a ton, so do I pull small? People always try to get me to pull more wall-to-wall there but then everything goes to pot. Had one run where we accidentally pulled one dragon, 3 Ice Sprites, 3 more dragons, and then from out of the nether appeared 3 more Ice Sprites? They were being tugged along by a DD. I've no clue how but the SGE mentor healer got us through that, I died once though. Other times healers aren't able to heal through things at all, as if the danger isn't anticipated.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I hold off on wall-to-walling there?

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Arms length is the best tanking CD in the game for dungeons and very few people use it. But especially in that place even if you do use to make the wads of dragons manageable they have something you don't see a lot of in any other content. Magical damage only mobs, those ice rocks, I fear those ice rocks. Add a pack of those to a running-and-probably-being-auto'd tank and its an easy dead ass tank on the floor because they aren't autoing they are casting which means until los broken they can dump freely on the puller.

If you're healer is on point and is using all their buttons it should in theory be fine, but if the tanks not using CD's and the healer's trying to do damage, it's a wipe. Split the ice mobs up too a two pull everything else in theory should be just fine to soak.

Lol, healed P3-4S for my first time healing in Savage.
Went with SGE and barely knew what half my skill did xD, but we managed.

I even got to lb3 ress after every1 except me and MT tank died towards the end in P3S, felt so heroic.


And uh...
Apparently you can just enter P4S with a group and then leave right away and you get to skip 1-3? o_O........
We had that happened... Wasted like 40 min on that person what a pos people like that makes me wish you could publically shame.

Edit: I forgot to mention rofl, I won the weapon chest with a roll of 69 xD...
I was so baffled I don't expect having a chance unless I roll like 85+ at least, yes I am immature the roll being the win made me snicker.

Went in to the new Alliance raid yesterday, which just so happens to literally be the first day for it. I’m in the party with 2 of my friends, one of whom has already done it but is there to help and also just chit chat with me on VC.

On the first boss, like 70% of the raid dies at roughly 50% (honestly I wasn’t even mad that I died, that mechanic is so cool!). Half of us release, half of them are still on the ground in the arena.

Alliance B has 6 people in the arena, a few of them dead. Alliance C also had 6 in the arena, not sure who was dead or alive there. The entirety of Alliance A is outside waiting. It’s clear that we just want to be able to redo the fight, since a majority of us are literally fresh and it’s literally day 1 content. Rather than wall it, what’s roughly 10 people (give or take a few who might’ve been dead but unable to be seen from our vantage point) take 10 minutes to slowly, slowly whittle it down from ~50% to 0. It’s very clear, given we outright said as much in the chatbox, that everyone from A and some from C want to be able to go back in and enjoy the fight.

Once they get to 0%, we’re all annoyed, but we plod on to the mini boss in the next area. Right after that mini boss a vote abandon goes out, and fails. (I’d have rathered it didn’t :/ I didn’t want to leave and face a 30 minute lockout but I didn’t want my first clear of this raid on DAY ONE to be like this.) The next boss (cool arena BTW) like 6 people from each alliance KO. instead of walling, Alliance A, in a bid to at least get the others to understand how annoying it is, decides to rez everyone (coincidentally, people from Alliance B released :) ). My friend jokingly asks why they released, since people were still alive. Alliance B caught feelings I guess, and someone goes off about how they apparently can’t do anything right.

The rest of the raid, similarly, is spent with the majority of every alliance eating the floor. Luckily nothing else happened but dang. I wish I could’ve experienced that first fight rather than watch ~10 people flex their e-peen for 10 minutes.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

I wish I could’ve experienced that first fight rather than watch ~10 people flex their e-peen for 10 minutes.

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Sympathies. I made a point of going into the alliance raid as quickly as I could specifically so it would be almost entirely still groups going blind, and had a blast... but then I went to look at the new EX, and though we were only 5 hours into the patch already much of PF was "Fresh prog. MUST HAVE WATCHED VIDEO, KNOW MECHANICS."

Does no one enjoy blind prog anymore? Demanding prog be blind when things have been out for ages and folks want to get through it to catch up is inconsiderate; if you want to guarantee a blind prog run of P1S at this point in the tier, for instance, make your own party. But when something has been out only a few hours, it feels weird to see folks demanding people go watch a video. It kills the joy of tackling something brand-new, I guess? At least for me.

I dunno why I found that disheartening. It's not like it doesn't happen every time, or that I shouldn't have expected it, but still.

I mean, I got together a blind prog party today and had a lot of fun (even if we didn't quite clear), but...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

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Yeah I’m definitely going to blind prog EX3. Funny enough, months ago, my group accidentally DF Queue’d for EX1 with 7 players, and nearly immediately we got another player. We managed to blindly scramble around with nothing but one person’s danger dorito until we got hard stopped by the Add phase. it was genuinely fun!

It’s made me appreciate blind progging a lot more.

But yeah we went into the alliance raid like, maybe 16 hours after it came out?? and already people were being massive dicks

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Yeah I’m definitely going to blind prog EX3. Funny enough, months ago, my group accidentally DF Queue’d for EX1 with 7 players, and nearly immediately we got another player. We managed to blindly scramble around with nothing but one person’s danger dorito until we got hard stopped by the Add phase. it was genuinely fun!

It’s made me appreciate blind progging a lot more.

But yeah we went into the alliance raid like, maybe 16 hours after it came out?? and already people were being massive dicks

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You could be in the very first group to ever go into something, and someone is potentially going to be a dick.

Last night did the new raid, went in blind, and we ended up wiping twice to the final boss. All because everyone was following incorrect direction(everyone on one side). It was still a fun raid, and am looking forward to doing it more to get all the items that drop at the end(and listen to the final boss music lots more...definitely one of those ones you crank the volume for)