What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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Originally Posted by Aline_D

The only one who knew about Dynamis, much less use it, was Hermes, which is a terrible warning as he ended up doing a "universe"-ending mistake as he didn't realize how strong Dynamis can be.

And it is irrelevant since if he knew what was really going on, he would try to sabotage any attempt to stop Meteion as he did before the memory wipe.

And "surely they would think of something" is meaningless, unless you have a specific example to give.


And finally even if they somehow managed to stop Meteion, we (and Venat) knows they were bound to be destroyed either by misuse of their power or by losing the will to live like all other civilisations.

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The problem is that Elidibus admits that the Convocation's understanding of the Final Days "was the same as our own", which means that whatever information Hermes provided to them was...non-essential. He wasn't even able to pin down dynamis as its cause.

He is not going to be sabotaging anything if the Convocation was aware of his behavior, and they were apparently already accounting for dissidents like him considering that they had a bureau of justice (Which Emet-Selch actually mentions that he might have to get involved when he first hears about Kairos due to recognizing the potential threat it posed).

And yes, they may have hypothetically run into/created other threats that would've ended them, but by all accounts, they had already kept things together for a long, long time, and considering how easily both the Nibirun and Ea were convinced that life was still worth living by the end of the Omicron quests...I don't think a race of intellectuals like them is ever going to collectively agree that erasing themselves from existence is the best course of action.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

They never would have found Meteion or gotten her report without our help.

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Would they even have been in the same area we found them in when she went crazy? Just us meeting them altered how events went.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Would they even have been in the same area we found them in when she went crazy? Just us meeting them altered how events went.

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It's time travel m8, at this point it's a just a nice way for the new writers to have wiggle room for what they want while hand-waving the older "baggage". They can either address it or go "lol, alternate timeline" and just drop the 1.0/ARR story.

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Originally Posted by Aline_D

Zodiark was just a name they drop once or twice, how did he "deserve better?"

>friendship is magic is a tired trope,

Ahh so this is a troll post. Else I have no idea why you are suffering to play a Final Fantasy game where friendship is pretty much *always* the magic. Maybe go play COD or GTA where everyone is an edgy as**le?

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Zodiark was portrayed as the god the Ascians (The main bad guy up to ShB) and the antithesis of Hydeline. We legit just killed him like he was another random Primordial. The lore they added on him in EW don't change the fact that his whole build-up ended up being a let down.

I played other FF game and we never get ''friendship is magic'' trope. At worst they mention it and say it what make them push their limits. in EW it litteraly the solution to stop the end of the world. Even FF5 who's got a kid cartoon tier of writting didn't pull this one out.

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Originally Posted by Magikazam

Zodiark was portrayed as the god the Ascians (The main bad guy up to ShB) and the antithesis of Hydeline. We legit just killed him like he was another random Primordial. The lore they added on him in EW don't change the fact that his whole build-up ended up being a let down.

I played other FF game and we never get ''friendship is magic'' trope. At worst they mention it and say it what make them push their limits. in EW it litteraly the solution to stop the end of the world. Even FF5 who's got a kid cartoon tier of writting didn't pull this one out.

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Thank god there are so many great writers in the xiv forum that can tell the current xiv scrub writers how to improve their writing. I am sure now everything will go exactly as they hoped. I am sure all the bitching and whining in the world will change things. One day when you wake up and join reality you will realize the absurdity of it all. The most comical part is half of the assertions about the story are factually incorrect. I guess they skipped those cutscenes and then formed their "opinion".

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Thank god there are so many great writers in the xiv forum that can tell the current xiv scrub writers how to improve their writing. I am sure now everything will go exactly as they hoped. I am sure all the bitching and whining in the world will change things. One day when you wake up and join reality you will realize the absurdity of it all. The most comical part is half of the assertions about the story are factually incorrect. I guess they skipped those cutscenes and then formed their "opinion".

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Interesting. Please do enlighten us, what common assertion about the story (made by those disappointed by it) is factually incorrect?

I'd love to see them elaborate on what is "factually incorrect", but considering that they've never done so during any of past tirades in this thread, I'm not counting on it.

Easier to just keep hissing about how we're wrong, our opinions don't matter, game is perfect, etc, etc without actually trying to back it up.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Thank god there are so many great writers in the xiv forum that can tell the current xiv scrub writers how to improve their writing. I am sure now everything will go exactly as they hoped. I am sure all the bitching and whining in the world will change things. One day when you wake up and join reality you will realize the absurdity of it all. The most comical part is half of the assertions about the story are factually incorrect. I guess they skipped those cutscenes and then formed their "opinion".

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Ok boomer.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Thank god there are so many great writers in the xiv forum that can tell the current xiv scrub writers how to improve their writing. I am sure now everything will go exactly as they hoped. I am sure all the bitching and whining in the world will change things. One day when you wake up and join reality you will realize the absurdity of it all. The most comical part is half of the assertions about the story are factually incorrect. I guess they skipped those cutscenes and then formed their "opinion".

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This is wrong. Guild use the famous fic writer like the Ayybeyond to rewriting the story. The guild writer team who work hard have two job at the burger king while writing story from heart. Unlike game writer who live on the Yoshi island and is only writer because game saying so. Story it is bad because all main chara not die and replace by the chara we wanting. There is new german translate script that is made on forum and is have many like and subscribe by the guild. If you read general disgust forum you will know. Is only way to stop the Hildabrandt relic from destroy the game.

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Originally Posted by Tariq

Emet-Selch literally invented fascism, therefore anyone who has Emet-Selch as their favorite character must either be a fascist themselves or a braindead fujoshi who thinks he did nothing wrong because OMG he's so hot teehee.

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We do not agree with the point. All the chara on forum are afraid of support the No Shadow God or the Garlemalding because it look like the facist or the eugene and the Solus King talk always about use the darwin to making the mustard race. Is why guild can not grow. Is ok to support the view in the game only. But game is not the life. So is not mean guild doing the duckstep and right turn just because always posting about the traditional masculine ariana race.

As entertaining as the poster above me is, my suggestion to anyone on this thread who wants to actually have a good faith discussion is to block Graeham, it is obvious by the way he writes he is not arguing in good faith. I am going to.,