Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Plenary Indulgence is looking to be a horrible level 70 ability it should have some raid utility built into it as well like +DMG or +CRT depending on how many stacks you have on the target

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

I'm sorry but you can't make all the healers the same.
You just can't, it would end up to not having a choice anymore.

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You can put different spins on it, but that's why we have the current raid meta of WAR+DRK, SCH+AST, NIN DRG MCH BRD. All of these jobs increase the others' DPS in some way (except DRK, more about MTing while maintaining high DPS). SCH had the original haste effect in particular and AST got one too. So yes, you really can.

But what you say is why people were concerned about AST way back in pre-3.0. We saw it was a copy of the WHM healing kit and knew it would either be strong enough to be WHM+utility, or so weak the utility wouldn't matter. At first it was the latter. Now it's the former. But for some reason SE is buffing it even more.

And, hey, WHM got its kit stripped down and shared even more for SB. SE is making the healers even more the same. Though, yeah, I don't like it. But you can, and SE has been and still is. So at this point, WHM might as well get some utility to make it not completely garbage.

See also: 2.0 Warrior.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

I actually wanted reflect for whm until I thought of the balance nightmare that brings. All of a sudden bosses are killing themselves very fast if they dare aoe the party.

Nidhogg: I'm going to aoe you!!!!!!!!! *nidhogg dies*


Sorry Alpha...it's not as easy as it seems

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Just cap the max damage that the reflect can do, there balance achieved. It's not that difficult to balance out in concept and its a real nice combination of healing/mitigation/dps

My suggestion would just be to re-work the new Lillies/Confession systems to work off of HoTs or Stone spells or both to some extent. Limiting it to ONLY Cure spells seems indefensible.

I dunno, the new ability to just spam skills nigh cost-free for WHM makes it seem like it'll actually have the best burst for helping with out with DPS. It seems to me that the focus on WHM was really on boosting its MP conservation, which is a very nice touch. It just lacks anything "Flashy" like AST's new AoE Nuke.

The main issue with the lilly system as it is now is that I can't ever see stacking more than one, mayyyybe two lillies at a time. Stacking more than that would require you to deliberately not use tetra, assize, benison, or asylum in the hopes of getting more lillies just so you can reduce the cooldown on on just a single one of these abilities by an insignificant amount.

That's like driving a car ten miles out of the way to save five cents a gallon on gas.

Thank you Yoshi, if this comes true what has been previewd on Gamersescape, you most likely killed the Job I play this game for.

The White Mage natively lost:
- Cleric Stance (constant 20% Damage Bonus)
- Stone 1 (Heavy), now called "Break"
- Protect
- Esuna
- Shroud of Saints (now calles "Ludid Dreaming")
- Divine Seal (now called Largesse)

As you may know... at least Protect and Esuna are a basic Utility to a healer. Same goes for Shroud of Saints who needs to maintain some sort of MP Refresh. Thin Air and Assize do NOT make up for this. AST has his Cards, Scholar has Aetherflow and Drain.
Divine Seal was always great combined with Regen and Medica II to up the time I do not have the take care for heals. I have to use 4 Slots to get back some of my bread and butter abilities + need swiftcast. Great Job... a total Rip Off!

Sad work, SE. :(

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Originally Posted by IttyBitty

Precisely. You and Sebazy have it correct, given what the tooltip is showing :)

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Lol I confused names. Sorry, I'm still triggered by these WHM abilities.

https://redd.it/6egimw

The link to the aforementioned healer skill analysis on Reddit.

I have nothing else to say anymore. I'm literally done. WTH. Now, will I switch over to PLD or SCH next tier...
Or jump over my own shadow and play AST *pukes*

Also, I would advice everyone to just ignore javid. He obviously is trolling, and as the old saying goes, don't feed the troll.

fin

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

Your CNJ is level 15.

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No, the right answer is : tell us why you think the new WHM changes are amazing.
I'm very curious about this. From my point of view the new WHM... Well... /sigh