NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

What was the reasons for not adding thief? I dont want to go back through 73 pages.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

Or like XIV Rogue?
Like many ppl already said, many times before....Rogue is already doing everything that THF can do. So THF and ROG is the same...
Complaining about ROG not being a thf/job, is kinda pointless...

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Wow you must have access to 2.4 before everyone else to know that Rogue does everything like a Thief Job! BTW, can I please get some footage of your Rogue CLASS doing COIL turn 9 :D? Derping aint easy!

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Originally Posted by Starrywisdom

What was the reasons for not adding thief? I dont want to go back through 73 pages.

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They didn't want a guild of thieves, in a city state, cause the city states wouldn't allow it.
Ofc that's rather silly, because....Ul'Dah, and Limsa, are already full of thieves and pirates.
I'm sure it's not the only reason though, or they wouldn't bring up such a lame excuse :)
But then again, there's a big difference between an official guild, and lawless thieves, and pirates.

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Originally Posted by LoLo

Wow you must have access to 2.4 before everyone else to know that Rogue does everything like a Thief Job! BTW, can I please get some footage of your Rogue CLASS doing COIL turn 9 :D? Derping aint easy!

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No, but there's the translated traits from dat-mined patch file.
and we saw combat video of how rogue plays.
and thief has been around in XI for...10 years? in XI, thieves were a DD job.
So they removed steal, and renamed it Rogue, and made it a class.
And since you brougt up WoW Rogues, they are DD, and so is XIV Rogues. So both are awesome DPS, by your standard.
And Yoshi already said that Rogues are Thieves, that stopped Thieving....so Rogues do everything that Thieves does...except steal.
You're claiming i lack imagination, but....there's a saying in Sweden: dont throw stones, in glass houses.

Edit: Actually i will bring Rogue to T9, and show that it will be viable :)

They shoulda just named the class "Treasure Hunter" and be done with it. Bam - Thief AND doesn't belong to a "thieves guild"

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Originally Posted by Radacci

ofc, BRD is already a hybrid job, so is SMN (even more so, since they can tank with egi, dps, and heal their pet)
but like i said, they already gave reasons NOT to add THF, and no, it doesn't mean they will never add it...they might.
if they had any good ideas for THF, they would probably have added THF together with NIN...but they didn't, so i don't think they have any good ideas of how to make a good job out of THF.

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Oh that was my fault, i meant hybrid role not just job, the only valid reason to add a job is if the customers ask for it, as you said they might add it later or not, no one can say if there are no reasons to add it, or if here are, besides the dev team.

The only thing we can say for sure is that thief is a classic ff job since ff1, and no one of the classes are named after, or taken as classic jobs, not wanna hear anything about translations or free interpretations about what Yoshi said in the LL, and of course if they don't add thf i'll just take it, but if they say thf is a class (even it it's named rouge) then they made a mistake.

One more thing, don't mention thf becomes ninja in some ffs, we already know that, thf is it's own job in more games.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

No, but there's the translated traits from dat-mined patch file.
and we saw combat video of how rogue plays.
and thief has been around in XI for...10 years? in XI, thieves were a DD job.
So they removed steal, and renamed it Rogue, and made it a class.
And since you brougt up WoW Rogues, they are DD, and so is XIV Rogues. So both are awesome DPS, by your standard.
And Yoshi already said that Rogues are Thieves, that stopped Thieving....so Rogues do everything that Thieves does...except steal.
You're claiming i lack imagination, but....there's a saying in Sweden: dont throw stones, in glass houses.

Edit: Actually i will bring Rogue to T9, and show that it will be viable :)

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Make sure its Rogue CLASS and not Ninja JOB. Either way even if you some how got into a party for the lolz as a class it still doesn't make it a Thief Job. You seem rather unwilling to acknowledge those facts, and to that I feel sad for you that you can't comprehend that.

lol

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Originally Posted by Renik

Oh that was my fault, i meant hybrid role not just job, the only valid reason to add a job is if the customers ask for it, as you said they might add it later or not, no one can say if there are no reasons to add it, or if here are, besides the dev team.

The only thing we can say for sure is that thief is a classic ff job since ff1, and no one of the classes are named after, or taken as classic jobs, not wanna hear anything about translations or free interpretations about what Yoshi said in the LL, and of course if they don't add thf i'll just take it, but if they say thf is a class (even it it's named rouge) then they made a mistake.

One more thing, don't mention thf becomes ninja in some ffs, we already know that, thf is it's own job in more games.

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No one ever touches the very fact that in FF I Warrior becomes a Knight which is another term for the Paladin job. Because then their FFI argument falls flat. :D

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Originally Posted by LoLo

No one ever touches the very fact that in FF I Warrior becomes a Knight which is another term for the Paladin job. Because then their FFI argument false flat. :D

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Not sure about the remakes, but in the original it wasn't warrior, it was fighter that became a knight.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Not sure about the remakes, but in the original it wasn't warrior, it was fighter that became a knight.

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Warrior in this game is fashioned after the Fighter job in FFI, look at its armor, look at how it fights. Come one now.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/W...nal_Fantasy%29

Very first sentence in this link says: "The Warrior (せんし, Senshi?), also known as the Fighter, is the most versatile member of the Warriors of Light in the original Final Fantasy."