Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

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Originally Posted by Wingale

I do think Female Hrothgar will come in patch 7.0

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Either that or Sooner.
Koji said "Dont worry, they are coming." So either Mid Endwalker, or 7.0 Whatever the next Expansion is called

Didn't they say during the announcement of female hrothgars that they'll be added during one of the endwalker patches?

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Originally Posted by Miiu

Didn't they say during the announcement of female hrothgars that they'll be added during one of the endwalker patches?

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https://youtu.be/sXrP6tT9wbY?t=7179 At this time he talks about adding female Hrothgar. Koji/Yoshi said basically

"They wont be coming at 6.0 with male Viera, but we plan to find an opportunity in the future to add the Female Hrothgar."

So theres a chance for them to be added in 6.X or at 7.0. Who knows. Specially with the hope floating about they they'll come in 6.1. And as much as i would L O V E for them to come in 6.1, i highly doubt it, at best 6.2 or 6.3 or at worst we wait 2 years for them for them to drop during 7.0.

Thank you for the clarification :)

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Originally Posted by Itsgigglez

https://youtu.be/sXrP6tT9wbY?t=7179 At this time he talks about adding female Hrothgar. Koji/Yoshi said basically

"They wont be coming at 6.0 with male Viera, but we plan to find an opportunity in the future to add the Female Hrothgar."

So theres a chance for them to be added in 6.X or at 7.0. Who knows. Specially with the hope floating about they they'll come in 6.1. And as much as i would L O V E for them to come in 6.1, i highly doubt it, at best 6.2 or 6.3 or at worst we wait 2 years for them for them to drop during 7.0.

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Yeah I highly doubt in 6.1 but can see still in later EW patches as they could add new characters for story purposes, it would be nice.

7.0, they can barely release more than one dungeon a patch cycle do you seriously think they will bring you an entire race before 7.0.

I feel like no matter what they do there's gonna be people who will flip out.
Especially if they have breasts which they will because it'd be easier with the gear between the races.
Because apparently breasts are the only body part in all of existence that always needs some deep reason to exist ( but any other human trait/ anatomy is totally fine and makes perfect sense ).
Robot men with full humanoid clearly male/ masculine musculature in detail on their shells, totally okay.
Female/ feminine shell with the mere hint of breasts?
OMFG WHY ARE THEY THERE SO UNREALISTIC AND UNNECESSARY I CAN'T BELIEVE IT REEEEE.

If they make them too bulky and beastial basically no one will play them, if they make them like the Bozja concept art or more like the Femroes vs Maleroes people will flip out and turn it into some big conspiracy against women.
Personally I am hoping they'll be more or less like in the Bozja art I actually might play one if that's the case.
Normally I don't play more beastial races but I rly liked how she looked in that.
I am rly curious about animations too.

I hope they actually give options and expand on the hair in the release of them too for Hrothgar overall.

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Originally Posted by RatKing

7.0, they can barely release more than one dungeon a patch cycle do you seriously think they will bring you an entire race before 7.0.

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.....you do know we only get 1 New Dungeon per Major Story Patch Right?
So what do you mean "they can barely release more than one dungeon a patch cycle"

They probably won't come any sooner then 7.0 or later. The answer they gave basically meant they will show up in the future but they don't exactly know when that future is.

I'd be surprised if they come before 7.0, especially with everything that might be happening behind the scenes. They haven't even released male Viera naming conventions yet.

While I’d like them to appear in the 6.X series, I could realistically see them waiting til 7.0. Use FemHroth as another draw for 7.0.

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Originally Posted by Ultaniku

I could realistically see them waiting til 7.0. Use FemHroth as another draw for 7.0.

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I think that's what everyone should be expecting.

They will most likely come in 7.0. A new race is a big thing to add, and it would boost expansion sales. Expecting them to come earlier will just disappoint you.

Since a lot of people want to talk about F Hrothgar all of a sudden, I thought I'd take the conversation out of the Viera + M Hrothgar Live Thread.

What I'm personally hoping for:
- In the short term: Mention of the project in the next live letter. Possibly art or concepts.
- Long term: Give us an expansion of Hrothgar customization. In the event that hair truly cannot be stripped from faces, an alternative would be fluff. I'd personally adore to have the option to choose neck fluff (perhaps one that touches the mane for a lion crown).
- A bent over "beastly" pose in /cpose. While this would be the first time I ever turn off "cycle idle pose", I think this would bridge a lot of concerns people have over posture. Some people love the M Hrothgar hunch, some hate it. Some people really want it for female Hrothgar, and this seems like it would be a compromise.
- Diadems, headdresses, and hair jewelry. Yes, I know this is more of a Viera thing and we didn't get those. HOWEVER, it would be an extra bit of customization unique to F Hrothgar that would remove pressure from the lack-of-hats situation.

Orcs in WoW were initially hunched over all the time, but they finally added character customization to allow between upstraight and hunched. Too many gamers were self conscious about their gaming posture, it's a shame this won't be an option in XIV with Hrothgars.

I really do hope that the female hrothgars actually look like a beast and not some 'hot human lady with hrothgar features here and there" like a lot of eastern media portrays beast races.

My ideal female hrothgar is to look even more tough than a male hrothgar, grizzled and agressive like most females in nature, I want them to be able to crush my head between their big strong hands, because they will have very big mooscles.

Jokes aside, people say hrothgars look like furry Roes, so if they make the female hrothgars look like furry femRoes, I'll be happy.

Giving this a little boost.

How would everyone feel about mane extensions? One thing that, while not being the case for real cats, differentiates male and female characters is usually hair length. It's almost a given that a female character would have access to a number of longer hairstyles vs the male.

Hrothgar don't have access to different hair styles (aside from the head choice), but what I noticed while playing around with the male model in creation was "clip on" bangs. While maintaining the head as it is with a short cut, you could toggle a longer mane from this selection. I had thought about a head that had a glorious mane, but a toggle sounds like it would add more QoL with how often people already swap out of such styles due to clipping.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

Giving this a little boost.

How would everyone feel about mane extensions? One thing that, while not being the case for real cats, differentiates male and female characters is usually hair length. It's almost a given that a female character would have access to a number of longer hairstyles vs the male.

Hrothgar don't have access to different hair styles (aside from the head choice), but what I noticed while playing around with the male model in creation was "clip on" bangs. While maintaining the head as it is with a short cut, you could toggle a longer mane from this selection. I had thought about a head that had a glorious mane, but a toggle sounds like it would add more QoL with how often people already swap out of such styles due to clipping.

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I actually would love the manes to be longer. And more full looking even.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

Giving this a little boost.

How would everyone feel about mane extensions? One thing that, while not being the case for real cats, differentiates male and female characters is usually hair length. It's almost a given that a female character would have access to a number of longer hairstyles vs the male.

Hrothgar don't have access to different hair styles (aside from the head choice), but what I noticed while playing around with the male model in creation was "clip on" bangs. While maintaining the head as it is with a short cut, you could toggle a longer mane from this selection. I had thought about a head that had a glorious mane, but a toggle sounds like it would add more QoL with how often people already swap out of such styles due to clipping.

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Well....Hrothgar are suppose to see some new hair soon in the 1st Major Patch I think. So this is a little Moot.
Otherwise still..its not really a bad idea at all.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Well....Hrothgar are suppose to see some new hair soon in the 1st Major Patch I think. So this is a little Moot.
Otherwise still..its not really a bad idea at all.

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Thought I'd throw it out anyway! I don't have a lot of faith in their solution, so options to the existing heads wouldn't go amiss either way.

Fingers crossed that we have good news on the way so something as simple as "hair toggle" would be redundant!

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

Thought I'd throw it out anyway! I don't have a lot of faith in their solution, so options to the existing heads wouldn't go amiss either way.

Fingers crossed that we have good news on the way so something as simple as "hair toggle" would be redundant!

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I have faith, call me a Blind Optimist.

Feeling inspired after the Live Letter. What do you guys think?

https://i.imgur.com/MsCjVms.png

Popping by to add my support for the cause.

I'm about to turn feral waiting for fluffy females

Yes please.
I wanna make cheetara

I have turned feral

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Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr

I have turned feral

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Liar.
I still see a Potato

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Liar.
I still see a Potato

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I am a lala yes.
But I am not happy about it.

Yoship
More like
Yoshi please don't be lazy and make femhroths femroes with cat ears

Big Cat Moms! I am excited for when this happens! I support it 100%

Absolutely beautiful and I'd love to play her.

Hi, sorry if this will be annoying to the people here, but I am generally curious and I would like some feedback. In this drawing, I took the 4Story female beasts (which was my first MMO ever and my first character was a female beast) representation and changed her face to be more animalistic. And I would like to know how would people react if the Female Hrothgar would turn out something similar to this. P.S I am not very good with 2D drawing but I gave it my best.
https://i.imgur.com/jxpOxFL.png

Sorry to say that but please delay them till you have solved all the restrictions and errors you made with the hrothgar males, SE. Pls. not. another. messy. race. with. problems. over. problems. Pls learn from your mistakes and let us be pleasantly surprised. If you release the female ronsos and they can't change hairstyles without using a fantasia it'll be...

Credits to all your posted fanarts and concept arts. They look really amazing!

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Originally Posted by Pip_Chick

Hi, sorry if this will be annoying to the people here, but I am generally curious and I would like some feedback. In this drawing, I took the 4Story female beasts (which was my first MMO ever and my first character was a female beast) representation and changed her face to be more animalistic. And I would like to know how would people react if the Female Hrothgar would turn out something similar to this. P.S I am not very good with 2D drawing but I gave it my best.
https://i.imgur.com/jxpOxFL.png

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I really like this art, and really that's how I expect they will look, like a bigger highlander body and cat faces.

Would be nice if they could at least share some concept art if not the final models. It's not like it's a secret or anything they've announced they are coming.

The current hair situation with the hrothgar makes me believe that their female counterparts will be nothing but miqotes with more color options and patterns on their skin.

I have zero confidence in them producing another race until the other races are completed with what was promised, especially after the current live letter. If we had a live letter where Yoshi came out and said we have the unique tribal hair for Hrothgar and Viera, the hat situation would have been fixed. People no longer had to pay for a fantasia to change their hairstyle. I would have a different reaction; However, as it stands now, it feels like the current customisation of the races is a piece of work the development team doesn't care about or doesn't want to do. Any work that has been put into it was on the developer's free time, which means it's not even in his mind, and we haven't heard anything about the hat situation since shadowbringers.

We are starting a new journey with 3 yr old broken promises to a large portion of the community. Old content should have been updated progressively over the past ten years instead of all at once. This is a live service, and they are treating people poorly. I work in the software sector. If this were any of our services, we would be dropped immediately and lose customers. It's unacceptable that people need to wait for a yr + for content you promised to fix. It's horrifying to think people had to wait for ten yrs + in some cases.

If this is what sparing no expense meant then the game will end just like wow where the dev team looks out of touch and they are starting to look that way with a lot of the class design changes.

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Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr

The current hair situation with the hrothgar makes me believe that their female counterparts will be nothing but miqotes with more color options and patterns on their skin.

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Let's hope for the best and expect the worse.

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Originally Posted by Vryn

I have zero confidence in them producing another race until the other races are completed with what was promised, especially after the current live letter.

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Nor should they. In the time between that first LL comment where they mentioned adding new race specific hairs to Viera and Hrothgar and now they created an entirely new race in the form of male Viera. They had to create an entire new set of assets for the male Viera. Meaning they had to sculpt the body, sculpt the faces, sculpt the many hairstyles, fit all of the gear to them, create animations, record voices, and so on. They had to create all of this from scratch when one could argue that that time and effort would have been better placed finishing the two races that they started in ShB and that a lot of the community is still unhappy about. Creating anything new without fixing the messes they seem to be avoiding is just poor game development

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Originally Posted by SacraAnima

Nor should they. In the time between that first LL comment where they mentioned adding new race specific hairs to Viera and Hrothgar and now they created an entirely new race in the form of male Viera. They had to create an entire new set of assets for the male Viera. Meaning they had to sculpt the body, sculpt the faces, sculpt the many hairstyles, fit all of the gear to them, create animations, record voices, and so on. They had to create all of this from scratch when one could argue that that time and effort would have been better placed finishing the two races that they started in ShB and that a lot of the community is still unhappy about. Creating anything new without fixing the messes they seem to be avoiding is just poor game development

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Hindsight is 20/20. A lot of us nearly three years ago were saying that they first need to "fix" or improve what we had at the time: Female viera and Male Hrothgar. These were drowned out by the cries for male viera. Now we are looking at the repercussions.

https://i.imgur.com/JR15DZH.png

I think this is basically what they'll be but flat feet and a baby tail.