Difficulty of normal content.

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Originally Posted by jdtuggey

I started in ARR and this argument resonates profoundly with me. Another variable is a lot of people joined during the latter half of SHB where most content was already outgeared. They haven't known difficulty in FFXIV, and their bar was lowered even further with EW content. I don't think people like OP are in it to play the game, they're in it to win it, and expect not to put any effort into it.

I also don't think creating a very easy tier of content for these people is the solution, they want the same trophies as everyone else.
I get the feeling OP might seethe when he sees omega weapon glam in gridania, cause he feels excluded by difficulty. If he's gonna make assumptions, so will I, and I make this one based on how he considers glams and titles "tangible rewards and the only reason people raid".

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FFXIV being a game using the same formula again and again, sometimes changes are to be expected. And they said so. Dawntrail is the extension where they're focusing mostly on content, because that was one of the biggest complaints from the overall playerbase, especially because Endwalker was such a low bar => Lack of engaging content.
Next expansion will be a focus on classes. Which is going to be harder to get correctly than content.

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Originally Posted by Blood_Blossoms

FOMO is very powerfull on some people to the point it rules there life.

But yeah fully agree we got lots new players that joined when power creeping was a thing as they joined late and when new content was very Autopilot styled content.

Talking about the new DT content for people saying its to hard heres vid. its not hard if anything its bit more engaging but can still pretty much AFK in it,
Level 100 story dungeon first boss Trusts zero damage and just RP walking around the room.

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This is even funnier to me cause I had a run last night where we wiped 4 times to the same X and O mechanic at the start due to the Tank and Healer not getting the whole "Don't stand in bad" gimmick. The tank went and I quote "Too chaotic for me" and "This isn't a dungeon, this is savage".

A couple of things, its not unrealistic to have difficulties with your first run of a week 1 fight with it being your first time seeing the fight in action, you cant see the future, and there's no harm in losing the 50/50 guess on an attack. And even then, its fine to not be perfect at the normal content. Even playing Extremes and savage content, I still struggled with the new normal raids, and didn't go without dying on a single one of the 4 fights.

However, I don't think its derogatory to say that OP has a skill issue if their argument is in bad faith, as it comes from a place of entitlement after not being catered towards, and is in my opinion, unhealthy for the game. Especially considering the healer strike on the forums due to mind-numbingly easy healer content in dungeons prior to Dawntrails release.

Lastly the devs never changed the difficulty in any of the normal content in Endwalker, never changed crystal tower series, never changed the majority of content in the game to be harder, they are as easy as they always were, and you can still play that if you want easy content, and they are creating more casual content in future content cycles like cosmic exploration. They did however make Endwalker so easy, so unengaging, so bland, that Thaleia wasn't even hardly an alliance raid in difficulty week 1. Hell, it was hardly a normal dungeon in difficulty. There comes a point in a game where if it does not become more engaging, and expect more of its players, it will become stale. OP wants combat to remain stagnant, because any failure or deviation from the formula is bad.

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Originally Posted by jdtuggey

Another variable is a lot of people joined during the latter half of SHB where most content was already outgeared. They haven't known difficulty in FFXIV, and their bar was lowered even further with EW content.

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I definitely fell victim to this, I joined in 5.2 and thought I was impressive cleared synced ARR EXs and then got a very rude awakening and was quickly humbled when I jumped into Eden’s Verse Savage. Difference is I gradually worked on my shortcomings, improved my fundamentals and game sense and now I’m definitely reaping the benefits. If you put in the groundwork early on in FFXIV it pays off massively in the long run…

I have to say, while I am not exceptional in any way, I've still cleared some high-end content, and to my shame some of these normal raids had me rolling on the floor a bit..

I found it funny, humbling, and made me even more excited for the new tier.

PS: regarding the topic, just because it's casual it doesn't mean it has to be absolutely brain-dead. You can prog it at your pace with close to 0 pressure.

OP is definitely in bad faith as they clearly mentioned numerous times, they have no intention of trying to get better at the content

Unfortunately for them, despite the attention it garnered, 72 pages and a content creator referencing it, this game is very likely to follow the course of a normal videogame with progression: content gets harder as you get to higher levels. What SE is doing is just the natural progression of this type of videogame and as a player you have no choice but to adapt or stop playing

So I think OP is gonna stop playing

I found it hilarious when I fell to my death on the floor break mechanic in M1N but it taught me an important lesson, that this was a mechanic you had to pay very close attention to, that one hit damages a platform and two hits breaks one and you need to move to a platform that isn’t being hit or hit once when it’s safe to do so…

Honestly hope they stop playing. cause they refuse to learn.

Good thing we are all entitled to have opinions, even though they are completely wrong

IIRC OP was unhappy about the Love Me Tender bullet hell section during Honey B Live, if you’re struggling to do your rotation during this then there is another option, drop rotation and focus on dodging the AOEs, after all there’s no DPS check or enrage in M2N so you could just start attacking again once the bullet hell part is over, then they could always try to keep their rotation going during that part once they feel more confident with it… However, if they’re not willing to give it another go despite the advice offered then I don’t think there’s any helping them.