Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

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Originally Posted by Reinha

So you can, in fact, tell the difference? It's weird how people gaslight how there are no changes at all to characters but on the other hand the changes are so massive that this update was mandatory.

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There are differences, the graphics have been improved for the most part.
Most of the shown examples are faithful adaptations with minimal to no changes.
Both things can be true at once.
Funny, isn't it?
Don't try to twist other people's words to fit your agenda.

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Originally Posted by cutestfox

Yeah. And it wasn't. Coupled along with Yoshi-P's reassuring quotes about how much time and care they'd be putting in to make sure your character still feels the same and is recognizable to you
No amount of "English lessons" from you is going to twist that
It missed the mark. Basic comprehension.

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In your own opinion, it wasn't. Not everyone agrees - many feel that the changes to their characters are close enough to be perfectly acceptable. Whilst some like or prefer the changes. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and one person's opinion is no more important than another persons.

There is nothing to twist. You claimed this comment was a 'promise' of keeping the characters the same, I pointed out that it wasn't.


Edit: Apologies but my replies will be slow - playing FLs, so I'm writing what I can between queue pops

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I mean I'm seeing far more people liking the updates than disliking them, I like the new details and how I can't count the amount of polygons on my character's nose anymore.

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Why are you talking so confidently? Did you vote or count every vote? I can't tell you how many of those and those, but I see a lot of people who are happy and a lot of people who are not happy. If most people were happy with the changes, then there would not be a 100-page topic on everyone's favorite Japanese forum, where people literally draw their old characters in a day.

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Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene

Why are you talking so confidently? Did you vote or count every vote? I can't tell you how many of those and those, but I see a lot of people who are happy and a lot of people who are not happy. If most of them were pretty good, then there wouldn't be a 100-page topic on everyone's favorite Japanese forum where people literally draw their old characters for nothing :3

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They're just here to bait, take this post for example, where they post the dawntrail benchmark twice with some unfunny captions
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...23#post6444023

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Originally Posted by Mouthbone

There are differences, the graphics have been improved for the most part.
Most of the shown examples are faithful adaptations with minimal to no changes.
Both things can be true at once.
Funny, isn't it?
Don't try to twist other people's words to fit your agenda.

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Faithful adaptation is your opinion. However, if you can tell the difference that these so called "improvements" made then so can the owner of that character and they have every right to voice their disappointment. Nobody gives a flying duck about some forumite's opinion on a character they don't own or play. This is the correct place to tell the devs they made unwanted changes which are not subtle.

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Originally Posted by cutestfox

They're just here to bait, take this post for example, where they post the dawntrail benchmark twice with some unfunny captions
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...23#post6444023

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Oh, thank you very clearly, this is another person who rejoices in other people's failures. Well, there are some in this community, how good it is that they are a minority. And unlike her calculations, I know what I'm talking about :3

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Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene

Why are you talking so confidently? Did you vote or count every vote? I can't tell you how many of those and those, but I see a lot of people who are happy and a lot of people who are not happy. If most people were happy with the changes, then there would not be a 100-page topic on everyone's favorite Japanese forum, where people literally draw their old characters in a day.

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People are far less likely to post when they're happy about something and far more likely to post when there is something they're not happy with. Understandably, the people most active in forums at the moment are those who are unhappy with the changes, wanting to express their disappointment. Some who are happy with the changes might make the effort to come and post their support but, aside from doing is as part of a thank you to the development team or to maybe highlight something they aren't quite 100% about, they have little need to as they are overall happy with the changes.

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Originally Posted by Scintilla

People are far less likely to post when they're happy about something and far more likely to post when there is something they're not happy with. Understandably, the people most active in forums at the moment are those who are unhappy with the changes, wanting to express their disappointment. Some who are happy with the changes might make the effort to come and post their support but, aside from doing is as part of a thank you to the development team or to maybe highlight something they aren't quite 100% about, they have little need to as they are overall happy with the changes.

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I absolutely agree, it always is, but you also take into account that most of the players did not launch benchmark at all and they do not sit on forums and so on and just play and enjoy
Now imagine how surprised they will be at the start * if everything stays as it is now* when they enter the game and see the new characters? someone will like it, someone will not, and again there will be the same topics. And someone will have to sit in line just to find out that they have a new character now, and they will have to do relogin to use the fanta, then relogin to undress * I do not know in what order, but I have heard that it is tedious to do this several times.
And then they'll be disappointed, because with the courtesy of fanta, they still won't get who they've been playing with for so many years.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I literally woke up in a state of shock last night drenched in a cold sweat as I looked upon the bench mark one more time to see that my Warrior of Light's nose was 2 pixels larger, and their lips had slightly more detail on them.
how could yoship do this to us

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I'm just tired of the favoritism honestly. WAR is being designed in a way where it feels like the developers are telling me I have to play it, because it is the best at literally everything under the sun, and is intentionally being pushed that way, and playing what I want to play is throwing.

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I'm sorry, but this is nothing but hypocrisy! That is, when you don't like something *in this case, WAR*, you run straight to the forum, with your hair flowing in the wind, that you don't like, that WAR is imposed on you, and write whole walls of text, and consider it normal. But when someone doesn't like that developers change our characters, you create silly funny memes and write in a sarcastic way. Keep it up!
our criticism is no different from yours, so why do you write such messages then?

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Faithful adaptation is your opinion. However, if you can tell the difference that these so called "improvements" made then so can the owner of that character and they have every right to voice their disappointment. Nobody gives a flying duck about some forumite's opinion on a character they don't own or play. This is the correct place to tell the devs they made unwanted changes which are not subtle.

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You do realize that people that don't play a particular race or use a certain face still have to look at them, yes?
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion on the changes, regardless if they play the race/face or not.
Your opinion is not more or less valid just because you play your character.
Don't get upset because people disagree with you, I'm also voicing my opinion to the devs. (I really doubt anyone will be crawling through this god forsaken post though)