Wuk Lamat is the worst and most annoying character ever in this game

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Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute

This entire thread is Asahi erasure and I will not stand for it.

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Seriously. Wuk Lamat is refreshingly innocent compared to that grade A asshole Zenos simp.

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Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute

This entire thread is Asahi erasure and I will not stand for it.

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Yeah, but Asahi's voice actor is cisgender, so nobody has an incentive to whine about MUH QUALITY PERFORMANCE for him.

Both Asahi and Zenos are great? Asahi reminds me of a little Chihuahua and Zenos was magnificent, especially in that final fight.

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Originally Posted by YueFairchild

Yeah, but Asahi's voice actor is cisgender, so nobody has an incentive to whine about MUH QUALITY PERFORMANCE for him.

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As has been pointed out many times already by both myself and various other posters, Sena is not immune to criticism simply due to being trans. I think that it is perfectly viable for people to find the performance to be flawed and even grating, just as they're free to come to such a conclusion over any performance in the game.

Some will agree, others will disagree. It is what it is.

Regardless, the forum is being used for its primary intended purpose - leaving feedback. You are of course free to do the same, though randomly painting everyone who isn't thrilled by Sena's performance and not so subtly implying that they have ulterior motives strikes me as a rather inappropriate thing to do.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

As has been pointed out many times already by both myself and various other posters, Sena is not immune to criticism simply due to being trans. I think that it is perfectly viable for people to find the performance to be flawed and even grating, just as they're free to come to such a conclusion over any performance in the game.

Some will agree, others will disagree. It is what it is.

Regardless, the forum is being used for its primary intended purpose - leaving feedback. You are of course free to do the same, though randomly painting everyone who isn't thrilled by Sena's performance and not so subtly implying that they have ulterior motives strikes me as a rather inappropriate thing to do.

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It's not gonna do any good to ignore the fact that lots of people with legitimate concerns in the previous threads would go all, like, "So I think this guy is mentally ill and needs to be fired" a few pages later. There are actual factual transphobes on here arguing in bad faith and it hurts to see people giving them cover.

I personally thought the lines felt rushed, like she was struggling to fit her performance in the time allotted, and I agree some were flat. However, I don't think she's any worse than the current Scion actors were in Heavensward. If the game comes out and there's no improvement, then I feel a conversation is appropriate.

I gave an actual criticism but no one wanted to talk about that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you did actually listen.... she gets better on the way, keep in mind that this is a foreign Cat, that is picking more up on Eorzean.... but I guess people only listened to the first few lines or whatever.... and it is kind of a scandal that people cannot grasp, knowingly speaking English as their native language, not to be able to pick that detail up.

And that is all what I can say about that.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Yeah man, I still believe how she went super saiyan to the digital people in Solution 9 in that one scene mimicking Kuja destroying Terra.

And she had the gall, THE GALL to then revert back, take our golden key and flew off to the city of gold while blowing raspberries at the player.

Unbelievable. Worst character ever. -5billion/10

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Okay - you win the forums this month! :D

I have a completely unbiased opinion, I did MSQ without checking reddit/discord/forums and I also agree with the OP. The voice sounds amateurish. Most other voice actors for FF14 and FF16 are stage actors or professional voice actors with several principle roles. This voice actor sounds like she picked up voice acting as a hobby during the pandemic. Her accent is odd because it's inconsistent. Sometimes its on sometimes its off, the tone is weird like someone mimicking a pitch that isn't in their natural range, it sounds stilted.

I still feel like people are being incredibly unfair about Sena's performance. She has some pretty meh line reads, but she also has some incredibly good ones. The first cutscene with her was the only one that was consistently "eh."

That, and she hasn't delivered enough lines for people to whine as much as they have been about wanting to fire her. She's been in the game for a total of one hour.

She is not that bad. Are we forgetting ARR voice acting?

Don't think she is the worst or most annoying character by any stretch of the imagination.

I mean, I find Godbert Manderville and his tired/overused, unfunny, routine of running around in his underpants FAR more annoying than anything Wuk Lamat said or did.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Don't think she is the worst or most annoying character by any stretch of the imagination.

I mean, I find Godbert Manderville and his tired/overused, unfunny, routine of running around in his underpants FAR more annoying than anything Wuk Lamat said or did.

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To be fair, that has as much to do with the fact that he has been in the game since ARR as it is to do with his behaviour.

That being said, Hildibrand style antics and over the top emotes are not to my tastes either and they appear to be leaking out into both the majority of side content and the MSQ's these days. In turn, that changes the tone and aesthetics of the game at large and may very well explain why newer characters are simply not resonating as well as they perhaps could.

I can only speak for myself, but I really like her as a character. I don't like the way the narrative has railroaded half the Scions into her service, but if I set that aside I really like having her around and am looking forward to getting to know her better.

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Originally Posted by YueFairchild

It's not gonna do any good to ignore the fact that lots of people with legitimate concerns in the previous threads would go all, like, "So I think this guy is mentally ill and needs to be fired" a few pages later. There are actual factual transphobes on here arguing in bad faith and it hurts to see people giving them cover.

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Both are valid arguments to be in opposition to the voice actor.

i would hate her less if i wasn't being forced to enact massive political change over something i currently barely understand and am not affected by.

if i had more information then maybe but it just feels like everyone's just helping her because they're bored to tears because once you get to the edge of the universe everything's just kinda lame.

i don't feel like i'm helping a group of people here; only an individual of whom has dubious and questionable goals to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Denji

i would hate her less if i wasn't being forced to enact massive political change over something i currently barely understand and am not affected by.

if i had more information then maybe but it just feels like everyone's just helping her because they're bored to tears because once you get to the edge of the universe everything's just kinda lame.

i don't feel like i'm helping a group of people here; only an individual of whom has dubious and questionable goals to begin with.

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thats kind of the problem when you go big stakes to something smaller again. like playing max level dnd and then back to level 1 next campaign.

It requires a degree of suspension of disbelief why your wol would go mercenary outside of gold glory and glamour

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Originally Posted by Denji

i would hate her less if i wasn't being forced to enact massive political change over something i currently barely understand and am not affected by.

if i had more information then maybe but it just feels like everyone's just helping her because they're bored to tears because once you get to the edge of the universe everything's just kinda lame.

i don't feel like i'm helping a group of people here; only an individual of whom has dubious and questionable goals to begin with.

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"And yet I feel like we haven't been told the whole story", it's just a setup to Dawntrail, we'll just have to wait and see how the character and the story develops.

wasnt much a fan, to the point i just did quickclick skip'd'hop, when i could.

endwalker encourages to me in my play exp:

rest - the xpac feels like a rest, maybe different if youre hellbent raiding.

but its a rest, post covid oh-wtf-office-back-ugh, drain catchup and frictions through in and after that...for dev team likely also.

more relaxed: just go get 4500 tomes, ok? ->> relic.

short msq chunks, or seemingly so, observationally.

Mao kinda liked Lady Fuzzy Cat. Then again, Mao BIG fan of Hildebrand (Mao has picture of Hildebrand in Mao house) so Mao nots entirely sure Mao tastes are similar to other Eorzeans. Mao was raised by dragons in cave so Mao views may be little bit differents. For example, Mao finds furnitures, sticks, books, cutleries, rocks, and other races to be tasty. Most tasty of all is Bunnys. Mao refuses to eats Lalas, Fuzzy Cats, Au Ra and Dragons, though. Au Ra and Dragons is family. Fuzzy Cats is for pettings. Lalas are wise and powerfuls. Ohh, Mao forgot. Mao also nots eat Estinien. Hims like big brother to Mao. Hims taught Mao that not all Poncy Long-Neck Big-Ears are to be slaughtered (well, except for maybe the Twins). Mao wonderings though. Does Lady Fuzzy Cat know what gettings into by asking Mao for helps with political matters? Mao solution to such things is just eats the competition. It's the only way to be sure.

I don't G'raha Tia is kind of grating on my nerves as of late with the fanboyism. Who honestly finds it endearing that this kid does nothing but stroke your ego?

The Jar Jar Binks of FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

I don't G'raha Tia is kind of grating on my nerves as of late with the fanboyism. Who honestly finds it endearing that this kid does nothing but stroke your ego?

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Agreed. I liked him in Shadowbringers, but he has been annoying ever since he came back. At least he seems to have mellowed out in DT, it probably helped that there was far less of a focus on him.

The main problem is that she is FORCED upon you everywhere. And that's not ok.

I do not think Wuk is annoying. I disliked Minfilia, Urianger in the earlier stories, lots of the villains like Yotsuyu’s brother (name has been burned from my mind…lol), but the ALL TIME most annoying character is LYSE! Loved her as Yda, but when she finally let us in her secret everything changed. She did nothing and took credit for everything. I despise her character.

Just to note, I ONLY use the Japanese voices because the English voices are terrible for the most part. Awful accents and just so different from the original Japanese. I know everyone has their own opinion about subbing vs dubbing.

Did I say how much I really dislike Lyse? Oddly enough, I like her fashions. I think I own them all. :D

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Originally Posted by NekoHina

the ALL TIME most annoying character is LYSE! Loved her as Yda, but when she finally let us in her secret everything changed. She did nothing and took credit for everything. I despise her character.
Did I say how much I really dislike Lyse?

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Same for me. Any time she is back in the story I'm annoyed even if it's just a role quest. She sounds like she is yelling all the time too. I didn't dislike Minfilia, but felt a total indifference towards her. The twins are really starting to annoy me this expansion.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

I don't G'raha Tia is kind of grating on my nerves as of late with the fanboyism. Who honestly finds it endearing that this kid does nothing but stroke your ego?

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I do! G’raha is my ALL TIME favorite character. I almost stopped playing DT because he stayed behind and we got Krile instead. Trust me, my husband and son got really sick of my ranting about it. I am still ticked, but have hope to see him soon. But I was in tears when he waved goodbye at the dock as we sailed away. He reminds me of Haurchefant a little too in how he feels about our WoL and I loved Haurchefant.

I mean, he was not there for most of the EW expansions and so I was looking forward to adventures with him again in DT…but no, Krile had to have her outing to show off her pictomancy skills.

G'raha had better show up soon. All I can say n the subject. XD

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

I don't G'raha Tia is kind of grating on my nerves as of late with the fanboyism. Who honestly finds it endearing that this kid does nothing but stroke your ego?

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He's overexposed. I hated him at first in ShB but when I understood his purpose and why he did what he did, I warmed up to him a lot; you know what helped me getting over my hatred for him? Good writing! Then we got "Taco-uwu-kawii Tia, which seemed like cheap Otome or Fujoushi pandering honestly.

Not saying anything wrong with the Fujoushi or Otome fandom, they can do whatever they want it's a free world.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

I don't G'raha Tia is kind of grating on my nerves as of late with the fanboyism. Who honestly finds it endearing that this kid does nothing but stroke your ego?

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I loved him in Shadowbringers, but they've flanderized him so much since then I genuinely wish he had died at the end of the expansion. He fanboys and knows things, and we've already got Yshtola and Urianger as the resident nerds, so really he's just there to fanboy and be cute. Please SE, kill one of these characters off next expansion. We really don't have time to devote to all of them.