Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I do see a lot of people say "gg" at the end of content now and I assume that's a WoW person thing because I never saw it much until last year.

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People use that as a common courtesy since... forever? Starcraft 1 will be my first memory of it I think. I also can't remember players saying GG as a common occurrence during my years playing WoW.

Reading this last few pages made me realize some people have unrealistic expectations towards people.

Like mind reading, people pleasing, having one assimilated mindset and no variety of ways of thinking and acting... yeah...

These people I will not name. Are you not ashamed on what you are doing right now? Literally giving a crap for people for saying GG instead of TYFP... you cant force people to thank you for running a game content... this is not the BORG... holy macaroni...

You make it seem like "old FF" players are all bullies. What a lovely picture it is.

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Originally Posted by Coletergeist

Folks have been saying gg for years before the WoW exodus though. I don't think there's *any* relation at all.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

People use that as a common courtesy since... forever? Starcraft 1 will be my first memory of it I think.

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In FFXIV it has always been far more common to use auto-translate. Not out of politeness for people who speak other languages or anything, it's because it's about as fast and convenient as typing gg, since you just type the first couple letters and then hit tab.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

I would say it's more that lots of people have started playing this game and the gamer community is pretty used to using GG after matches.

I wouldn't specifically relate it to WoW since it neither originated nor popularized there. I.E. I don't think this is a "because wow players" thing.

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I suppose. I'm only attributing it to WoW because that's what everyone has been attributing FFXIV's rise in popularity in the past several months to. Blizzard bad, Asmongold good, etc.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I do see a lot of people say "gg" at the end of content now and I assume that's a WoW person thing because I never saw it much until last year.

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Doing dungeons in WoW feels exactly like doing Trust here, no one ever says anything so you are pretty much playing with "bots".

As other people have said, it's common courtesy nowadays when you finish a match, etc.

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Originally Posted by Escalon

I dont call something a GG where I have to put super human effort to keep the rest of the party alive over the course of the whole Dungeon/Raid/Alliance raid.

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Idk that sounds pretty GG to me if I saw you do that.

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Originally Posted by icrot

Doing dungeons in WoW feels exactly like doing Trust here, no one ever says anything so you are pretty much playing with "bots".

As other people have said, it's common courtesy nowadays when you finish a match, etc.

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Odd. Outside of maybe Timewalking or daily speedruns, most of my dungeon runs in WoW are waaay more talkative than in XIV. Leveling dungeons, especially. Discussion of latest buffs/nerfs, new content, getting suggestions on particular tricks, builds, or what class to level next, or even totally random questions.

Unlike in XIV, you can also easily see who you recently ran with and invite them cross-server without any world-transfer-queue hoops (they just, in 0.5 to 3 seconds, merge over to your world). I miss that.

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Originally Posted by icrot

Doing dungeons in WoW feels exactly like doing Trust here, no one ever says anything so you are pretty much playing with "bots".

As other people have said, it's common courtesy nowadays when you finish a match, etc.

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Sorry, but the "dungeon experience" a had was not really different between WoW retail and FF14. The only real difference between players and trusts in FF14 is: trust do not use AoE, players do. :)

But this happens when a game introduces automated group matching inclusive a teleport to the content.


Cheers

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

trust do not use AoE, players do. :)

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but do they tho?

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Sorry, but the "dungeon experience" a had was not really different between WoW retail and FF14. The only real difference between players and trusts in FF14 is: trust do not use AoE, players do. :)

But this happens when a game introduces automated group matching inclusive a teleport to the content.


Cheers

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Well people here type "o/" and "gg" if you know what I mean. That's more than what I got in WoW over the years.

But it was just a joke anyway. People barely chat here either, I agree. Almost no one says "hello" back in Expert Roulette for example.

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Originally Posted by Escalon

Take your head out of your arse please, I just stated that > I < not remembering it being a thing, and that I never seen it on the servers I played on. And it became a thing recently for me. and GG literally means GOOD GAME, Yeah, sorry, I dont call something a GG where I have to put super human effort to keep the rest of the party alive over the course of the whole Dungeon/Raid/Alliance raid.

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Buddy if you feel you need to put in super human effort to keep the party up in a dungeon I would recommend you stop healing and play a different role, GG.

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

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Yea, feels like half of xiv players never even played wow just throwing around spooky ghost stories shared around other xiv players who also never played wow.
WoW people don't talk like that, the lot of them at least. Heck, I've never even see that kind of talk here either where are you playing? lol.

What that sounds like are people who are tilted with the flawed way PF is in this game and how is cultivates its own toxicity, don't blame other games.

The only common internet slang I see occasionally that's distinctly from WoW is when people say 'kek'.

Ah yes, so now that GG has been debunked as a WoW only term, 'kek' is the new indicator-how long is WoW going to be this ridiculous boogeyman that people here continuously throw red harrings about around..."Well THIS means someone came from WoW!!" "No, THIS!!" "WoW players are everywhere!!! This is their fault-I know they're here!!! I KNOW YOU'RE HERE WOW PLAYERS" Are they in the room with you right now? Can you hear their voices? What are the WoW players in Party Finder telling you?

Did you know WoW players actually love silly cat videos on youtube? So anyone who likes cats, you've got them. "LOL, LUL, LMAO" those are terms they've used too. If they at some point liked Invader Zim?? gottem. Rawr?? xD??? Were they alive in the 90s? 00s? Did they watch Rockos Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy? If they have a gaming pc?? There's 3 WoW players reading this right now, I can hear them officer I swear they made me do it-

*looks at the level skip/story jump potions*
Are we really going to have this discussion? This is all very silly, lol.

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Originally Posted by Batbrat

Ah yes, so now that GG has been debunked as a WoW only term, 'kek' is the new indicator-how long is WoW going to be this ridiculous boogeyman that people here continuously throw red harrings about around..."Well THIS means someone came from WoW!!" "No, THIS!!" "WoW players are everywhere!!! This is their fault-I know they're here!!! I KNOW YOU'RE HERE WOW PLAYERS" Are they in the room with you right now? Can you hear their voices? What are the WoW players in Party Finder telling you?

Did you know WoW players actually love silly cat videos on youtube? So anyone who likes cats, you've got them. "LOL, LUL, LMAO" those are terms they've used too. If they at some point liked Invader Zim?? gottem. Rawr?? xD??? Were they alive in the 90s? 00s? Did they watch Rockos Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy? If they have a gaming pc?? There's 3 WoW players reading this right now, I can hear them officer I swear they made me do it-

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They took our game!

Has the WoW crowd taken over now?
Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now. too much drama stop

to much drama

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

In FFXIV it has always been far more common to use auto-translate. Not out of politeness for people who speak other languages or anything, it's because it's about as fast and convenient as typing gg, since you just type the first couple letters and then hit tab.

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That's interesting, I've experienced the opposite. I hardly see folks using auto translate unless it's people joking in NN using it. Perhaps difference in the world/data center you're in? Not sure. But seeing auto translate being used more often than 'gg'? Not that I've personally seen. 'GG' is something I see in almost all parties I'm in.

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Originally Posted by Maxilor

The only common internet slang I see occasionally that's distinctly from WoW is when people say 'kek'.

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can't believe that max caulfield from the hit game life is strange is a WoW gamer, I thought she was nice but knowing that she played that game really makes me dislike the character!!!!

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Originally Posted by JohncarterIx

Has the WoW crowd taken over now?
Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now. too much drama stop

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A party/group finder is never going to be perfect. You list a group within a set of parameters and then have to go through members to try and make a workable groups. While this gets better over the course of a tier and expansion, it's rough in the beginning as every gets up to speed with class changes etc and getting in the motions.

The party finder is good overall but you have to accept that a system that's being used to form groups of higher level content, without committing to a static/raid team, will lead to situations in which groups will fail due to personality clashes or some players just not being good enough. A group being listed isn't an entitlement to join and if you're the leader, isn't an entitlement that people will join. I don't particularly see an issue in listing clear, concise requirements to join even if you need a 3rd party tool such as a parser to determine these.

It's not "WoW mentality" or whatever you want to call it. I've used the group finder a lot in WoW back when I used to play that game to mostly great success. This was for both Heroic raids and Mythic+ dungeons, the majority of players weren't a problem and troublemakers were rare (and easy to ignore/blacklist anyway). A clown, leader or otherwise, is easy to spot and you soon move them on to never play or interact with them ever again.

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

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The only thing new there is the dps thing. Which depending on what is said in the group chat if you get kicked from a group could result in being able to report the person.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

They took our game!

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THEY TOOK OUR JOB....CRYSTALS

I'd take WoWers over toxic 14 casuals any day of the week.

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

“4k dps = instakick”
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Just report them for using mods against the ToS. No way otherwise to know if someone's dps is over 4k

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

I'd take WoWers over toxic 14 casuals any day of the week.

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Yet you continue to come here.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Yet you continue to come here.

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Never cede territory.

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Originally Posted by Batbrat

Ah yes, so now that GG has been debunked as a WoW only term, 'kek' is the new indicator-how long is WoW going to be this ridiculous boogeyman that people here continuously throw red harrings about around..."Well THIS means someone came from WoW!!" "No, THIS!!" "WoW players are everywhere!!! This is their fault-I know they're here!!! I KNOW YOU'RE HERE WOW PLAYERS" Are they in the room with you right now? Can you hear their voices? What are the WoW players in Party Finder telling you?

Did you know WoW players actually love silly cat videos on youtube? So anyone who likes cats, you've got them. "LOL, LUL, LMAO" those are terms they've used too. If they at some point liked Invader Zim?? gottem. Rawr?? xD??? Were they alive in the 90s? 00s? Did they watch Rockos Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy? If they have a gaming pc?? There's 3 WoW players reading this right now, I can hear them officer I swear they made me do it-

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I think you misunderstood me.

'KeK' originated from WoW. It means 'LoL' in Orcish. As an Alliance player when pvping whenever a Horde played said 'LoL' it displayed on our screens as 'KeK' as it was a different language. So the saying actually originated from the good old days of WoW.

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Originally Posted by Maxilor

I think you misunderstood me.

'KeK' originated from WoW. It means 'LoL' in Orcish. As an Alliance player when pvping whenever a Horde played said 'LoL' it displayed on our screens as 'KeK' as it was a different language. So the saying actually originated from the good old days of WoW.

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and.. that.. is why you should probably google something before going on a tirade.

I'd just like to express that sometimes there's a facet of your community that you're just not aware of, and you're going to become aware of it someday

there's a "low tolerance for failure" crowd in all mmos, and in my experience this game was never an exception

I think a good example of this "that's not the game I know" mentality from wow itself is alliance and horde players both simultaneously believing their faction never wins battlegrounds, but I've won plenty on both teams, it's simply your perspective and personal luck

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Originally Posted by Maxilor

I think you misunderstood me.

'KeK' originated from WoW. It means 'LoL' in Orcish. As an Alliance player when pvping whenever a Horde played said 'LoL' it displayed on our screens as 'KeK' as it was a different language. So the saying actually originated from the good old days of WoW.

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Having it serve as indicator that someone is a wow refugee is a stretch though because of how far kek has spread. KEKW alone is an insanely popular emote on twitch (9th most used FFZ emote, 44th on BTTV).

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Having it serve as indicator that someone is a wow refugee is a stretch though because of how far kek has spread. KEKW alone is an insanely popular emote on twitch (9th most used FFZ emote, 44th on BTTV).

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Ah, I don't use Twitch so I didn't know.

<---- Boomer

it also has replaced lol in many places, even those that have nothing to do with WoW

the only indicator of wow pedigree is yelling about mankriks wife when youre lost in /sh chat