If you want FF XI , then PLAY FF XI!

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Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze

"If you want FF XI , then PLAY FF XI!"

You could have just left it at that and just said title^, that sums up about everything I'm thinking towards people that are trying to transform this into an XI clone.

yeah because having what weve got in FFXIV is better, End Game Garbage.

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Originally Posted by Morticous

yeah because having what weve got in FFXIV is better, End Game Garbage.

If you want me to be honest, neither XI nor XIV endgame was fun in the least. What was fun in XI were the missions, ie CoP, WoTG, ToAU. End game was completely boring and uneventful, and at many times frustrating. While I'll probably get flamed for saying this, alot of WoWs raid bosses were fun as hell to fight and the voice acting added on to it. But yeah, that's just my 2 cent in that regard. I can say without a doubt though, I don't want any XI mixed into my XIV. Maybe a mailbox though, that'd be nice after a f*cking year. :)

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I think that's part of the issue... People can't separate these things
This game lacking a sense of accomplishment doesn't necessarily have anything to do with FFXI....

So someone comes on and says "It should be harder to level, because FFXI was. And it should have a big sweeping, emotional storyline because FFXI did... And getting to a new city should be a journey and an accomplishment to be proud of..... because it was in FFXI"

And those things are all true... But the thing to understand is those things would still be needed in this game... even if they weren't in FFXI... in fact, someone who never played FFXi could recognize the scattered story, the quick and easy instant gratification leveling... The zones having no real structure.. nothing to move you along to the next place....

All things being said... those are very much needed in this game... but FFXIV needs those things because FFXIV needs those things...

Saying "FFXI had X feature and I'd like to see it in FFXIV" is great
but saying "FFXIV needs X feature BECAUSE it was in FFXI" is just silly

conversely to the other side...

If an idea is good... its good. If it comes from FFXI and would work well or fit in good with this game, why not use it.
Judge it on it's own merit.

Telling people to go back to FFXI is kind of silly... but telling SE to clone FFXI is just as silly

I know many people aren't saying clone.. they'd just like to see some features... but some of you really are asking for a clone without even knowing...
Its like: "OK... copy my exact face... ok.. now completely copy my brain... hair.... You know what... Copy my torso... I have a good torso... I like my arms too.. copy those.. Might as well copy legs and feet also... but you can do whatever you want with the toes"
At that point you're asking for a clone

In order from least popular to most popular you have:
1. An unfinished, Laggy game, with no content and glitches/crashes all over the place
2. FFXI-2
3. FFXI
4. A new, innovative FF MMO that appeals to a wider base of players, has tons of content, no lag issues and looks beautiful with fresh new environments and lots to do. A game that borrows from FFXI but is still very much it's own game

FFXIV started at #1.... did horribly so a few people wanted them to turn it into #2..... but there is no reason #4 can't still happen.

Let's be real... WoW did 15 million at peak and sustained over 8-10 million for a long time and yet.... no WoW clone is even doing a tenth of WoW's numbers....
If you want a game to be better than it's predecessor it needs to grow.. to expand.. to change...
BUT
It needs to learn from the previous installment...
and the original fanbase and the newer fanbase need to come together...
And we all just can't seem to do that

Totes agree dawg.
When I say I want something from XI, I say it because of the value of the feature to an overall game experience. Not because it was the last Final Fantasy MMO.